[PaQSO] Using State Lands

[Bob Gundlach]

In 2004 I proposed operating from a State Park and had corresponded with the 
Park Ranger via E-Mail concerning erecting wire antennas in the trees.
I always assured them that there would be no harm inflicted on the trees.
I had done this with three parks, and generally the reply came directly from 
the Park Ranger but on one occasion my request escalated up to Headquarters.
Bottom line was I had in writing via the reply to my E-mail the OK to 
install antennas, and who approved it.
Those communications went in my PA QSO folder.
All State Parks have web sites listing among other things, the Park Ranger 
and a E-mail address.
Bob
N3NBT



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim" <jss167 at yahoo.com>
To: <PaQSO at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 12:58 PM
Subject: [PaQSO] Using State Lands


> As far as asking about installing dipoles and other
> antennas on state lands, that can go either way.
>
> 1.If you ask, you are good to go.  The problem is in
> whether or not the person is authorized to allow the
> antennas.  He could always deny giving permission,
> unless it's in writing.  This may also be referred to
> numerous people, which will give you a headache.
> Governments can take something simple and really
> escalate it into something complex.  If you are told
> NO and do an operation anyway, you can get into
> trouble.  You may also have to skip a location.
>
> 2.If you don't ask, there is a small chance you can be
> asked to dismantle the antennas, but I doubt it.  You
> simply plead ignorance, say that you are not harming
> anything, it is an emergency drill, antennas are
> permitted at other parks, etc.  Most of the time
> nobody will know, especially if you install during the
> day, during the week.  Don't use fluorescent orange
> rope, etc.  You save the hassle of dealing with the
> bureaucracy, too.
>
> I have been in efforts over the years, which used
> state and county lands.  We had specific permission to
> use both, but we needed special access and we had lots
> of stuff.  The one time I did leave the state land at
> night.  A DCNR ranger did a sharp U-turn and pulled
> right in front of me.  He wanted to know why I was
> coming out of the woods late at night.  This was a
> case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand
> was doing, since we had permission, but he didn't
> know.  All turned out OK, but it was rather funny
> afterwards!
>
> A good rule of thumb is to NEVER provide too much
> information.  That has sunk many people over the
> years.  Don't ask, don't tell.
>
> Jim
> N3PBH
>
>
>
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