[PaQSO] Using State Lands

[ed.miske at kennametal.com]

Good comments by Jim.

In the interest of clarity, any comments I made about getting permission 
were in connection with setting up within the boundary of a State Park. In 
that case you know who is in authority........the park manager........and 
that's who you go to.

I'd think that if I were setting up on state game lands or a state forest, 
depending on my "visibility" I might well "not ask".

Ed/WA3SES

paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net wrote on 10/14/2005 12:58:16 PM:

> As far as asking about installing dipoles and other
> antennas on state lands, that can go either way.
> 
> 1.If you ask, you are good to go.  The problem is in
> whether or not the person is authorized to allow the
> antennas.  He could always deny giving permission,
> unless it?s in writing.  This may also be referred to
> numerous people, which will give you a headache. 
> Governments can take something simple and really
> escalate it into something complex.  If you are told
> NO and do an operation anyway, you can get into
> trouble.  You may also have to skip a location.
> 
> 2.If you don?t ask, there is a small chance you can be
> asked to dismantle the antennas, but I doubt it.  You
> simply plead ignorance, say that you are not harming
> anything, it is an emergency drill, antennas are
> permitted at other parks, etc.  Most of the time
> nobody will know, especially if you install during the
> day, during the week.  Don?t use fluorescent orange
> rope, etc.  You save the hassle of dealing with the
> bureaucracy, too. 
> 
> I have been in efforts over the years, which used
> state and county lands.  We had specific permission to
> use both, but we needed special access and we had lots
> of stuff.  The one time I did leave the state land at
> night.  A DCNR ranger did a sharp U-turn and pulled
> right in front of me.  He wanted to know why I was
> coming out of the woods late at night.  This was a
> case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand
> was doing, since we had permission, but he didn?t
> know.  All turned out OK, but it was rather funny
> afterwards!
> 
> A good rule of thumb is to NEVER provide too much
> information.  That has sunk many people over the
> years.  Don?t ask, don?t tell.
> 
> Jim
> N3PBH
> 
> 
> 
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