[OKDXA] Cook/Niue

[JOHN GEIGER]

Those entities have been technically independent but in free association with New Zealand for some time.  Kind of like the relationship between the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, and the United States. Independent the the US (or for E5, E6 New Zealand) provide for some of there services.  I think a US citizen can move to the Marshalls, V6 and T8 without having to go thru the whole immigration hassle as well, but I haven't really been able to verify that.



Anyways, I don't think E5 or E6 will leave the list and be added again since there really is no change in status, at least from the DXCC standpoint.  I am not sure that North and South Cook would be separent entities under today's rules, but it doesn't matter because they are both grandfathered in.



However, both Cook Islands and NIue will now become level 1 entities, which might allow for a remote island or 2 of theirs to now be added to the list, like what happened with Ducie/Pitcairn or Swains/American Samoa.



73 John AF5CC 

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---- On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:36:51 -0500 Jeff Martin <jeffk5we at gmail.com> wrote ---



RR Roger...
 We may end up with some deletions and some new ones. Niue would 
probably be a wash, the new for the old. Not so sure about Cook. That 
might be two deletions and one new one, the united Cook Islands. Time 
will tell... North Cook is hard to get to, and always in demand, hate to 
see it go... We'll see...

73,
Jeff - K5WE

------ Original Message ------
>From "Roger Simpson" <mailto:rksimpson1 at cox.net>
To "Jeff Martin" <mailto:jeffk5we at gmail.com>; "Oklahoma DX Association" 
<mailto:okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
Date 9/25/2023 2:58:19 PM
Subject Re: [OKDXA] Fw: Barbeque

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>Jeff:
>FB on ordering the BBQ.
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>I just saw a news flash from CBS.   The US state department has formally setup diplomatic relations with Cook Islands and also with Niue. The USA will open embassies in both places. These islands are becoming sovereign countries.
>
>It is possible that this will create one or more new DXCC entities. For example the “new” nation of Niue could replace the old place called “Niue”. The old “North Cook Islands” could be replaced by a new “Republic of North Cook Islands” [ or whatever it is going to be called].
>
>The rules for DXCC are complex. But if there is a place that was granted “entity status” by the ARRL under a certain criterion but that criterion no longer is relevant then the place can be re-admitted according to the new status. I am staying tuned for some word from the DXCC desk and/or the DX Advisory Committee.  One precedent that comes to mind is “Federal Republic of Germany” that consists of what was colloquially called  “West Germany” and “East Germany”.
>
>73  Roger    K5RKS
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>From: Jeff Martin
>Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 2:39 PM
>To: Oklahoma DX Association
>Subject: [OKDXA] Fw: Barbeque
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>------ Forwarded Message ------
>From "Jeff Martin" <mailto:jeffk5we at gmail.com>
>To "Oklahoma DX Association" <mailto:okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
>Date 9/25/2023 2:37:58 PM
>Subject Barbeque
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>    For those attending the banquet... I've ordered the Barbeque... Smells good already...
>CU Saturday...
>
>73,
>Jeff - K5WE
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