[OKDXA] 3D2CR Operation not allowed

[N5OK]

Jeff,

Dom has said up front that he doesn't play by the rules!  (The reason for
the Rebel in the group name)

If they allowed automated contacts, they could set up several automated
stations and then go home and let them run.  This possibility has existed
for years.  If I remember correctly it started with AMTOR back in the
80's.  I worked some automated stations back then.  It was kinda fun but
they didn't count for anything.

I said up front that I'm not a fan of these rebels and that none of their
contacts should count because of their "pay to play" policies.

Coy

Coy C Day, N5OK
20685 SW 29
Union City, OK 73090
H(405) 483-5632 C(405) 448-2368
n5ok at arrl.net


On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 4:51 AM Jeff Martin <jeffk5we at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> From DX News:
> 3D2CR Conway Reef IOTA News 23 October 2021
> 3D2CR operation by Dominik Grzyb from Conway Reef, September 2021
> IOTA Management regrets that it will not be able to accept for IOTA credit
> contacts made with the 3D2CR operation from Conway Reef between 18 and 25
> September 2021. Dominik has not been able to show that his FT4/FT8 activity
> complied with IOTA rule B.3.10 on which clarification was given in a
> Management News Item on 10 September. At Dominik's request credit will also
> not be given for a small number of contacts made on SSB. Management wishes
> to draw IOTA DXpeditioners' attention to its policy of only accepting for
> IOTA credit contacts that result from contemporaneous direct initiation by
> the operators on both sides of the contact. Automated contacts, i.e.
> contacts not initiated and completed personally by both operators at the
> time of QSO are not acceptable in a programme founded on an ethos of
> recognising personal operating performance and skill.
> Team IOTA, 23 October 2021
>
> In other words, Dom was doing automated mode QSOs on FT4/FT8. IOTA does not
> allow automated QSOs. Wonder what ARRL position is regarding automated QSOs
> counting for DXCC? And how would you know if the op was running in
> automated
> mode? Would automated but operator monitored be OK? It appears several
> recent Dxpeditions are using clone software which may have the automated
> feature rather than WSJT-X... Are they going to throw all of them out?
> Again, how do you know? Seems like a losing effort to me... If the
> technology exists it will be used... Any thoughts?
>
> 73,
> Jeff - K5WE
>
>
>
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