[OKDXA] Amsterdam Island -- The Most Distant DX Location from W5

Robert Redmon k5sm.bob at gmail.com
Mon Nov 25 11:58:07 EST 2013


Maybe that explains why I only have Amsterdam Is on one band (20)!

On 11/25/2013 9:17 AM, W5LE wrote:
> Wow, Roger, what a ton of very good information.  I'm sure this will 
> be helpful to everyone chasing FT5ZM.  Thanks for all the time and 
> effort involved in this research.
> 73, Gene
>
>
>
>
> On 11/25/2013 8:13 AM, Roger Simpson wrote:
>> Working FT5ZM from QTHs in Oklahoma
>> Roger Simpson -- K5RKS
>> 25 Nov 2013  -- V1.1
>>
>> The FT5ZM DXpedition will be operating from the Martin des Viviers
>> Base which on on the northern shore of Amsterdam Island. According
>> to the FT5ZM website, the operation will be using two cabins
>> which are about 5800 feet apart. According to the FT5ZM website
>> the cabins are located as follows:
>>
>> Mataf Cabin      South 37 deg 47 min;  East 77 deg 34 min
>> Antonelli Cabin  South 37 deg 48 min;  East 77 deg 32 min
>>
>>
>> CHART 1
>>
>> The following chart gives the azimuth and distance to FT5ZM from
>> various places in or near Oklahoma. This chart is sorted based upon
>> the short path azimuth.
>>
>> Location                               Azimuth to FT5ZM Distance to 
>> FT5ZM
>> [degrees]                 [statute miles]
>>                                               Short Long        
>> Short    Long
>>                                               Path Path        
>> Path     Path
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>
>>
>> Cheyenne Wells CO              5.9      185.9       12371 12512
>> Garden City KS                79.6      259.6       12362 12521
>> Wichita KS                    94.2      274.2       12166 12717
>> Tulsa OK                     109.7      289.7       12066 12817
>> Enid OK                      110.9      290.9       12177 12707
>> Muskogee OK                  111.8      291.8       12028 12855
>> Stillwater OK                112.8      292.8       12125 12758
>> Woodward OK                  118.9      298.9       12252 12631
>> Oklahoma City OK             122.0      302.0       12119 12764
>> Liberal KS                   123.2      303.2       12341 12542
>> Lawton OK                    135.5      315.5       12130 12753
>> Altus OK                     142.5      322.5       12161 12723
>> Guymon OK                    145.3      325.3       12350 12534
>> Amarillo TX                  168.6      348.6       12266 12617
>> Boise City OK                182.2        2.2       12366 12517
>> Santa Fe NM                  232.1       52.1       12202 12682
>> Raton NM                     241.1       61.1       12313 12571
>> La Junta CO                  276.9       96.9       12377 12506
>> Denver CO                    314.4      134.4       12245 12638
>> Lamar CO                     333.7      153.7       12421 12462
>>
>> ** Antipode SE of Lamar CO   *any*      *any*       12442 12442
>>
>>
>> CHART 2
>>
>> COORDINATES OF LOCATIONS USED IN TABLE ABOVE
>>         all Latitudes are degrees North of the equator
>>         all Longitudes are degrees West of Greenwich
>>
>>           Oklahoma City OK   Lat = 35.4167; Long = 97.4250;
>>           Tulsa OK       Lat = 36.1250;  Long = 95.9625;
>>           Guymon OK      Lat = 36.6917;  Long = 101.4750;
>>           Lawton OK      Lat = 34.6375;  Long = 98.4375;
>>           Stillwater OK  Lat = 36.1250;  Long = 97.0875;
>>           Muskogee OK    Lat = 35.76;    Long = 95.4;
>>           Boise City OK  Lat = 36.6917; Long = 102.4875;
>>           Lamar CO       Lat = 38.05; Long = 102.6;
>>           Wichita KS     Lat = 37.6; Long = 97.4;
>>           Liberal KS     Lat = 37.0; Long = 100.9;
>>           La Junta CO    Lat = 37.9; Long = 103.6;
>>           Cheyenne Wells CO Lat = 38.8; Long = 102.3;
>>           Garden City KS Lat = 38.0; Long = 101.0;
>>           Raton NM       Lat = 36.9; Long = 104.5;
>>           Woodward OK    Lat = 36.5; Long = 99.4;
>>           Enid OK        Lat = 36.5; Long = 97.9;
>>           Amarillo TX    Lat = 35.3; Long = 101.8;
>>           Altus OK       Lat = 34.6; Long = 99.3;
>>           Denver CO      Lat = 39.8; Long = 105.0;
>>           Santa Fe NM    Lat = 35.7; Long = 105.9;
>>
>> Note: In most cases the coordinates above are expressed to the 
>> nearest 0.1
>>        degree of Latitude and Longitude
>>
>>
>> As can be seen from the CHART 1 above, the paths will be very 
>> different between
>> various QTHs in Oklahoma to Amsterdam Island. Both the short and long 
>> path from one
>> location in Oklahoma may be radically different than either the short or
>> long path from some other place in Oklahoma.
>>
>> To take an extreme case, consider Boise City OK compared to Tulsa OK.
>>
>> # From Boise City the path is either north [long path] or south 
>> [short path].
>> # From Tulsa the path is either slightly south of due east [short 
>> path] or
>>      slightly north of due west [long path].
>>
>> All four of these paths are different in terms of continents and 
>> oceans they
>> traverse between Oklahoma and Amsterdam Island.
>>
>> 1. a) The short path from Boise City leaves the USA over Presidio TX, 
>> passes over Tahati, and then crosses Antartica.
>>
>> 1. b) The long path from Boise City leaves the USA over Minot ND, 
>> passes north of Greenland, and traverses Kazakhstan.
>>
>> 2. a) The short path from Tulsa leaves the USA over Jacksonville FL 
>> and then passes over the southern tip of Africa
>>     near Capetown.
>>
>> 2. b) The long path from Tulsa leaves the USA over Crescent City CA 
>> and then passes over Papua New Guinea.
>>
>> This situation is due to the fact that the antipode for Amsterdam 
>> Island is close to us here is Oklahoma. The
>> antipode location is in the SE corner of Colorado, about 15 miles SE 
>> of Lamar.
>>
>> If you drill straight down through the earth from anywhere in the 
>> continental 48 states of the USA you will
>> come out of the other side of the earth dripping wet because you will 
>> be in the Indian Ocean. There is,
>> however, one exception to this. The exception is that if you drill 
>> down from a unique location
>> near Lamar Colorado, you will hit dry gound when you come out of your 
>> worm hole. The dry gound where you
>> emerge is Amsterdam Island.
>>
>> Here are a couple of islands in the Indian ocean and the locations of 
>> their antipodes:
>> 1. Crozet: Antipode is in the Pacific Ocean west of Oregon.
>> 2. Kerguelen: Antipode is in Southeastern Alberta about 18 miles 
>> north of the USA-Canada border.
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> Directions to reach the antipode points for the two cabins at Martin 
>> des Viviers Base.
>>
>> You should have a GPS unit and a vehicle that can handle dirt county 
>> roads. I recommend using the
>> following USGS 7.5 minute quad maps for navigation:
>> Barrel Spring COLORADO
>> Two Buttes Reservoir COLORADO
>> Gobblers Knob COLORADO
>>
>> When you start traveling on dirt roads I recommend taking way-points 
>> with your GPS so you don't get lost.
>>
>> 1. Go to Lamar, Colorado
>>
>> 2. Proceed east on Highway 50 from the intersection of South Main 
>> Street and Olive Street in downtown Lamar.
>>
>> 3. Travel east approximately 11 miles until you see a pair of grain 
>> bins on the north side of the
>>      highway next to the railroad tracks. You are now in beautiful 
>> downtown Carlton, Colorado.
>>
>> 4. Continue east for another 1/4 mile. You are now at the 
>> intersection of Highway 50 and County Road 19.
>>      County road 19 is paved going north across the railroad tracks. 
>> It is not paved going south.
>>
>> 5. Turn south on County road 19. You are now travelling on dirt roads.
>>
>> 6. Proceed for about 16 or 17 miles until you reach a T with a road 
>> going east and west. The east/west road is
>>      County Road N.
>>
>> 7. Turn right on County Road N. Travel west on County Road N until 
>> there is a road that you can turn left on.
>>     You will have traveled about 1/2 mile.
>>
>> 8. Turn left. You are now going south. Your are on the continuation 
>> of County Road 19.
>>
>> 9. Cross the cattle gaurd after about 2000 feet.
>>
>> 10. After crossing the cattle gaurd continue traveling south for 
>> about a half a mile.
>>
>> 11. You will come to the ford of Middle Plum Creek which is hopefully 
>> dry. If the road
>>      is flooded at this point you may not be able to continue.
>>
>> 12. Continue south for about 1.9 miles until your GPS says that your 
>> latitude is
>>      North 37 deg 47 minutes.
>>
>>          The antipode point for the Mataf Cabin is to the west of you 
>> about 0.8 miles {i.e. approx 4000 feet}.
>>          You may not be able to hike to the Mataf antipode because it 
>> is in the middle
>>          of a terraced wheat field which is likely fenced in.
>>
>>          COORDINATES FOR ANTIPODE FOR MATAF CABIN:  NORTH 37 deg 47 
>> min; WEST 102 deg 26 min
>>
>> 13. Continue south on County Road 19. After traveling south for about 
>> 0.6 miles you will come to a road.
>>          You are now at the intersection of County Road 19 and County 
>> Road K. You are at the Southeast corner
>>          of the terraced wheat field. The terraced wheat field is a 
>> square mile in size.
>>
>> 14. Turn right onto County Road K. You are now going west.
>>
>> 15. Travel west on County Road K until the longitude on your GPS 
>> indicates West 102 degrees 28 min.
>>          From this point the antipode for the Antonelli cabin is 
>> about 1.8 miles due
>>          north. If you want to go to the exact antipode point you 
>> will have to determine if it is possible to hike
>>          to the location or navigate there with a 4WD vehicle. It is 
>> likely that this is private property
>>          which may be fenced.
>>
>>          COORDINATES FOR ANTIPODE FOR ANTONELLI CABIN:  NORTH 37 deg 
>> 48 min; WEST 102 deg 28 min
>>
>> 16. Now you can return back to civilization by reversing your route 
>> to get back to Highway 50. Or you can follow step
>>          17 below.
>>
>> 17. Directions to get to Highway 287:  Continue west on County Road K 
>> until you reach a "T". This will be in about 4.35
>>          miles. Turn left (south) at the "T" onto County Road 12. 
>> Travel south 2 miles to County Road H. Turn right (west)
>>          onto County Road H. Travel west on County Road H for 3 miles 
>> and you will reach Highway 287. At this point
>>          there will be two rows of windmills [7 windmills per row]  – 
>> each row running east and west -- to the south of you.
>>
>> Note: The coordinates for the two cabins are taken from the FT5ZM 
>> website.
>>        These coordinates are likely rounded off to the nearest arc 
>> minute.
>>        Taking the coordinates as stated on the website, results in 
>> the two cabins being
>>        about 11,500 feet apart -- thus the antipodes are also about 
>> 11,500 feet apart.
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