From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  1 00:22:54 2010
From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:22:54 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] 160 last night...
In-Reply-To: <4B3D602D.2080103@gmail.com>
References: <280315.34260.qm@smtp117.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<4B3D602D.2080103@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161037.12272.qm@smtp119.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the assessment.

I was listening on my Array Solutions K9AY loop system. I'm lucky in 
that I live in a very radio-quiet place: between E 48th and E 60th on 
Robinson, east of Norman. I did a W8JI test early on and found that 
in Summer my night time noise levels far exceeded my daytime noise 
levels, indicating I'm in a radio quiet location. The loops do help 
quite a bit: tonight, the loops with the loop preamp on and the 
bandwidth dialed down to about 400 Hz yields a noise level typically 
less than S1 on my Orion II. On the TX antenna, I see noise levels 
between S1 and S3 (this is with the receiver's preamp off and RF gain 
wide open).

But, to the point: what I heard is, then, typical for 160. My friend 
is right: it's a masochist's band!  I'll play more with the gray line 
(I find early morning seems more productive than evening) and see how 
things are. My hat's off to anyone that makes  160 DXCC! Heck, 160 
WAS seems a worthy goal!

Happy New Year and 73,

Kim N5OP


At 08:38 PM 12/31/2009, you wrote:
>Kim,
>
>Last night was pretty typical for us. Lots of qsb. On my NE beverage,
>signals out of EU were S1-S5 (noise floor S1). If you were listening on
>the TX antenna, you probably had S7-S9 noise, making the DX seem very
>weak. Try right at the gray line. Noise is lowest and signals are
>strongest. Stations spotting EU as "booming" are usually on the East
>coast, but I have seen them as strong as S9 here...very rare.
>
>73, Bob K5SM
>
>
>
>Kim Elmore wrote:
> > Well, I decided to gut out 160 last night and see what I could do.
> > \\I figured out some better settings on the Orion II to help and used
> > my K9AY loops to the best ability I had. I worked SM4CAN, F5IN, OM2XW
> > and HA5JI. U se my 50 ft tower shunt fed through a remotely tunable
> > L-network for transmitting. I had radials at one time, but the puppy
> > (now dog) chewed them up. Still, the ground is saturated, so I should
> > be doing relatively well.
> >
> > I kept seeing spots claiming that these guys were "booming" in. They
> > never boomed in at my QTH. This was hard work. I used the amp with
> > about 700 W output to work them, but I was amazed that even those
> > they tended to be in the mud most of the time, I actually did work
> > them. Honestly, if I had tuned across these signals hunting on my
> > own, I'd have passed them right by declaring the path too poor to be
> > useable. I caught these guys only through Internet spots.
> >
> > So, for you 160 veterans, I have this question: is this typical of
> > 160, or am I simply a spoiled newbie? Are signals signals you can
> > actually hear considered booming?
> >
> > Kim Elmore N5OP
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
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From aa5jg at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  1 01:49:28 2010
From: aa5jg at yahoo.com (John Geiger)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:49:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [OKDXA] 160 last night...
In-Reply-To: <161037.12272.qm@smtp119.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <369391.62685.qm@web45107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

And just think if we ever get an allocation at 137khz or 500khz.  Talk about masochistic!

73s John AA5JG

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [OKDXA] 160 last night...
> To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 11:22 PM
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Thanks for the assessment.
> 
> I was listening on my Array Solutions K9AY loop system. I'm
> lucky in 
> that I live in a very radio-quiet place: between E 48th and
> E 60th on 
> Robinson, east of Norman. I did a W8JI test early on and
> found that 
> in Summer my night time noise levels far exceeded my
> daytime noise 
> levels, indicating I'm in a radio quiet location. The loops
> do help 
> quite a bit: tonight, the loops with the loop preamp on and
> the 
> bandwidth dialed down to about 400 Hz yields a noise level
> typically 
> less than S1 on my Orion II. On the TX antenna, I see noise
> levels 
> between S1 and S3 (this is with the receiver's preamp off
> and RF gain 
> wide open).
> 
> But, to the point: what I heard is, then, typical for 160.
> My friend 
> is right: it's a masochist's band!? I'll play more
> with the gray line 
> (I find early morning seems more productive than evening)
> and see how 
> things are. My hat's off to anyone that makes? 160
> DXCC! Heck, 160 
> WAS seems a worthy goal!
> 
> Happy New Year and 73,
> 
> Kim N5OP
> 
> 
> At 08:38 PM 12/31/2009, you wrote:
> >Kim,
> >
> >Last night was pretty typical for us. Lots of qsb. On
> my NE beverage,
> >signals out of EU were S1-S5 (noise floor S1). If you
> were listening on
> >the TX antenna, you probably had S7-S9 noise, making
> the DX seem very
> >weak. Try right at the gray line. Noise is lowest and
> signals are
> >strongest. Stations spotting EU as "booming" are
> usually on the East
> >coast, but I have seen them as strong as S9 here...very
> rare.
> >
> >73, Bob K5SM
> >
> >
> >
> >Kim Elmore wrote:
> > > Well, I decided to gut out 160 last night and see
> what I could do.
> > > \\I figured out some better settings on the Orion
> II to help and used
> > > my K9AY loops to the best ability I had. I worked
> SM4CAN, F5IN, OM2XW
> > > and HA5JI. U se my 50 ft tower shunt fed through
> a remotely tunable
> > > L-network for transmitting. I had radials at one
> time, but the puppy
> > > (now dog) chewed them up. Still, the ground is
> saturated, so I should
> > > be doing relatively well.
> > >
> > > I kept seeing spots claiming that these guys were
> "booming" in. They
> > > never boomed in at my QTH. This was hard work. I
> used the amp with
> > > about 700 W output to work them, but I was amazed
> that even those
> > > they tended to be in the mud most of the time, I
> actually did work
> > > them. Honestly, if I had tuned across these
> signals hunting on my
> > > own, I'd have passed them right by declaring the
> path too poor to be
> > > useable. I caught these guys only through
> Internet spots.
> > >
> > > So, for you 160 veterans, I have this question:
> is this typical of
> > > 160, or am I simply a spoiled newbie? Are signals
> signals you can
> > > actually hear considered booming?
> > >
> > > Kim Elmore N5OP
> > >
> > >
> ______________________________________________________________
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> > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/okdxa
> > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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From k5kc at att.net  Tue Jan  5 01:34:31 2010
From: k5kc at att.net (Kenneth Case)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:34:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [OKDXA] 160 last night...
In-Reply-To: <161037.12272.qm@smtp119.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <392620.75150.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi Kim,
?
I was not on the night you mention (have been doing chores from a higher authority).? Since my transceiver is also an?OII, thought I'd respond.
?
My location is west of Stillwater in the middle of nowhere.? The closest neighbor is about 0.8 miles away.? So, it is a quiet place.? There will be times when the noise level is S1 even with the TX antenna in use for receiving.? Those times are rare.? More typical is noise of S3 or S4 with the preamp on, RF gain up, and using the TX antenna.
?
With the TX antenna, there are some nights when EU or Russian or JA stations will be well over S9.? 
?
These days, however, almost always the RX antenna will be used for receiving.? There are two bi-directional 720 foot Beverages using DXEngineering boxes.? The signals will be much lower, but the reduced noise makes it MUCH more pleasant to copy.? There is nothing quite like a good night of DX stations running S6-7-8-9 on the very quiet Beverages.? For comparison, I have a K9AY, and have used it for years.? It really helps reduce the noise; however, it cannot match the Beverages, despite being quite a difference maker on many QSOs when compared to the TX antenna.
?
Keep in mind that we are talking about some really good nights.? There will be many times when the signals are more like you described.? They are close to the noise level, Q5 on peaks, and yet inaudible on lows - there is a lot of QSB to contend with on 160M.? ?It can be very frustrating (yes, masochistic) when, due to QSB, some people are unable to copy, while others in another part of the country copy Q5.? This brings on a lot of calling when the DX is sending.? 
?
The gray line can be a huge help - for example at our sunset, EU's sunrise, our sunrise, JA's sunset, etc.? Things often start to pick up noticeably about 15-20 minutes before either stations' sunrise, and?may carry on for 5-15 minutes after sunrise.? Don't give up right at a DX station's sunrise like many do.? Hang in, because they may stay loud and you can work them without too much competition.
?
One other thing.? Don't get too carried away by what others are saying or the reports they are giving.? For example, a 559 on 160M often means "I can hear you just above noise level and you are Q4-5."? Or, a "559 QSB"?may mean the same thing PLUS "... and when you drop down, I'm lucky to hear you at all."??Continuing, when you hear somebody mention a big signal, it may be a bit relative to what is expected.? For example, if HS0ZEE (Thailand) is coming through just above the noise and is Q4-5 for 2 to 5 minutes, there will be many raving about his signal.? That is because we may only hear him a few times per year, so RELATIVELY speaking, he is loud.
?
Any way you slice it, 160M is a fun band, and also kind of a tough band from OK.
?
73 Ken K5KC
?
?
On Fri, 1/1/10, Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [OKDXA] 160 last night...
To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 5:22 AM


Hi Bob,

Thanks for the assessment.

I was listening on my Array Solutions K9AY loop system. I'm lucky in 
that I live in a very radio-quiet place: between E 48th and E 60th on 
Robinson, east of Norman. I did a W8JI test early on and found that 
in Summer my night time noise levels far exceeded my daytime noise 
levels, indicating I'm in a radio quiet location. The loops do help 
quite a bit: tonight, the loops with the loop preamp on and the 
bandwidth dialed down to about 400 Hz yields a noise level typically 
less than S1 on my Orion II. On the TX antenna, I see noise levels 
between S1 and S3 (this is with the receiver's preamp off and RF gain 
wide open).

But, to the point: what I heard is, then, typical for 160. My friend 
is right: it's a masochist's band!? I'll play more with the gray line 
(I find early morning seems more productive than evening) and see how 
things are. My hat's off to anyone that makes? 160 DXCC! Heck, 160 
WAS seems a worthy goal!

Happy New Year and 73,

Kim N5OP


At 08:38 PM 12/31/2009, you wrote:
>Kim,
>
>Last night was pretty typical for us. Lots of qsb. On my NE beverage,
>signals out of EU were S1-S5 (noise floor S1). If you were listening on
>the TX antenna, you probably had S7-S9 noise, making the DX seem very
>weak. Try right at the gray line. Noise is lowest and signals are
>strongest. Stations spotting EU as "booming" are usually on the East
>coast, but I have seen them as strong as S9 here...very rare.
>
>73, Bob K5SM
>
>
>
>Kim Elmore wrote:
> > Well, I decided to gut out 160 last night and see what I could do.
> > \\I figured out some better settings on the Orion II to help and used
> > my K9AY loops to the best ability I had. I worked SM4CAN, F5IN, OM2XW
> > and HA5JI. U se my 50 ft tower shunt fed through a remotely tunable
> > L-network for transmitting. I had radials at one time, but the puppy
> > (now dog) chewed them up. Still, the ground is saturated, so I should
> > be doing relatively well.
> >
> > I kept seeing spots claiming that these guys were "booming" in. They
> > never boomed in at my QTH. This was hard work. I used the amp with
> > about 700 W output to work them, but I was amazed that even those
> > they tended to be in the mud most of the time, I actually did work
> > them. Honestly, if I had tuned across these signals hunting on my
> > own, I'd have passed them right by declaring the path too poor to be
> > useable. I caught these guys only through Internet spots.
> >
> > So, for you 160 veterans, I have this question: is this typical of
> > 160, or am I simply a spoiled newbie? Are signals signals you can
> > actually hear considered booming?
> >
> > Kim Elmore N5OP
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > OKDXA mailing list
> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/okdxa
> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> > Post: mailto:OKDXA at mailman.qth.net
> >
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> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> >
> >
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From Charlie.Calhoun at RelayHealth.com  Tue Jan  5 08:50:03 2010
From: Charlie.Calhoun at RelayHealth.com (Calhoun, Charlie)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:50:03 -0500
Subject: [OKDXA] RTTY Elmer?
Message-ID: <499FB7709BF1784595AB17FC8A572B5F023AE2A6@NDHV3004.na.corp.mckesson.com>

Happy New Year all!

 

I ran the RTTY Roundup for the first time this year.  It was a lot of
fun.  It wasn't a stellar effort.  I didn't work the entire period due
to the kids being sick, so I had to take several breaks to help them.  I
also got off to a slow start learning N1MM, which I hadn't used before
but it seemed to be time to put CT behind me and move on to a test
logger with more functionality, namely a digital interface.  I did
manage to beat last year's Oklahoma SOLP entry, so I was pleased with
the first time effort during this test.

 

I have a question, though, that would help me with my operating practice
for this contest and others in the future.

 

I don't have a big fancy rig, I'm running a Yaesu FT-847.  It has DSP
and I can adjust the high and low cut separately.  I've learned to do
that and use it to the best of my ability.  The problem I found I had
was with strong adjacent signals.  I adjusted the DSP so I had a band
pass about the width of the RTTY signal.  I also adjusted the band pass
filter on the rig to one side and worked near the edge of that side and
that helped greatly with adjacent signals to that side.  But that still
left the other side open.  The built in BPF in MMTTY also helped some
but didn't do anything for the adjacent strong signals.  When I had a
strong signal on the open side of the pass band it would overload the
front end and I would lose the weak signal in my DSP pass band.  

 

Is there anything else I might try to attenuate signals out of the
passband so they don't overload the front end?  One thing I didn't try
was the attenuator.  With some suggestions, I'll try some things during
NAQP CW this weekend.

 

I also have an older Icom IC-736, but I don't use it much for 2 reasons.
It doesn't have DSP and I don't currently have it hooked up for Rig
control, but if suggestions are made to try it in comparison, I can do
that too.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

73

Charlie Calhoun, K5TTT 

 


From n5ok at arrl.net  Tue Jan  5 12:12:02 2010
From: n5ok at arrl.net (Coy Day)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:12:02 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] 160 last night...
In-Reply-To: <392620.75150.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <392620.75150.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7596f765a88a30134c65500d5089092a.squirrel@webmail.atlinkwifi.com>

Kim,

Ken did a better job than I could ever have done in giving you a run down
on the 160 meter band.

I do have one thing to add and it is a bit strange.  It is called the spot
light effect.  Often on 160 a particular area is hearing the dx station
very loud while others are barely able to copy and they may be only a few
miles away.  I have had this happen to me.  I've caught stations when they
were strong for me but no one else worked them. This is a small miracle 
because I use my transmit slopers for receiving antennas.  These occasions
are rare but are a real joy when they happen.

The band is full of mystery like this.  Enjoy it!

Coy
--
Coy Day, N5OK
20685 SW 29
Union City, OK 73090
405-483-5632




Kenneth Case wrote:
> Hi Kim,
> ?
> I was not on the night you mention (have been doing chores from a higher
> authority).? Since my transceiver is also an?OII, thought I'd respond.
> ?
> My location is west of Stillwater in the middle of nowhere.? The closest
> neighbor is about 0.8 miles away.? So, it is a quiet place.? There will be
> times when the noise level is S1 even with the TX antenna in use for
> receiving.? Those times are rare.? More typical is noise of S3 or S4 with
> the preamp on, RF gain up, and using the TX antenna.
> ?
> With the TX antenna, there are some nights when EU or Russian or JA
> stations will be well over S9.?
> ?
> These days, however, almost always the RX antenna will be used for
> receiving.? There are two bi-directional 720 foot Beverages using
> DXEngineering boxes.? The signals will be much lower, but the reduced
> noise makes it MUCH more pleasant to copy.? There is nothing quite like a
> good night of DX stations running S6-7-8-9 on the very quiet Beverages.?
> For comparison, I have a K9AY, and have used it for years.? It really
> helps reduce the noise; however, it cannot match the Beverages, despite
> being quite a difference maker on many QSOs when compared to the TX
> antenna.
> ?
> Keep in mind that we are talking about some really good nights.? There
> will be many times when the signals are more like you described.? They are
> close to the noise level, Q5 on peaks, and yet inaudible on lows - there
> is a lot of QSB to contend with on 160M.? ?It can be very frustrating
> (yes, masochistic) when, due to QSB, some people are unable to copy, while
> others in another part of the country copy Q5.? This brings on a lot of
> calling when the DX is sending.?
> ?
> The gray line can be a huge help - for example at our sunset, EU's
> sunrise, our sunrise, JA's sunset, etc.? Things often start to pick up
> noticeably about 15-20 minutes before either stations' sunrise, and?may
> carry on for 5-15 minutes after sunrise.? Don't give up right at a DX
> station's sunrise like many do.? Hang in, because they may stay loud and
> you can work them without too much competition.
> ?
> One other thing.? Don't get too carried away by what others are saying or
> the reports they are giving.? For example, a 559 on 160M often means "I
> can hear you just above noise level and you are Q4-5."? Or, a "559
> QSB"?may mean the same thing PLUS "... and when you drop down, I'm lucky
> to hear you at all."??Continuing, when you hear somebody mention a big
> signal, it may be a bit relative to what is expected.? For example, if
> HS0ZEE (Thailand) is coming through just above the noise and is Q4-5 for 2
> to 5 minutes, there will be many raving about his signal.? That is because
> we may only hear him a few times per year, so RELATIVELY speaking, he is
> loud.
> ?
> Any way you slice it, 160M is a fun band, and also kind of a tough band
> from OK.
> ?
> 73 Ken K5KC
> ?
> ?
> On Fri, 1/1/10, Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [OKDXA] 160 last night...
> To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 5:22 AM
>
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Thanks for the assessment.
>
> I was listening on my Array Solutions K9AY loop system. I'm lucky in
> that I live in a very radio-quiet place: between E 48th and E 60th on
> Robinson, east of Norman. I did a W8JI test early on and found that
> in Summer my night time noise levels far exceeded my daytime noise
> levels, indicating I'm in a radio quiet location. The loops do help
> quite a bit: tonight, the loops with the loop preamp on and the
> bandwidth dialed down to about 400 Hz yields a noise level typically
> less than S1 on my Orion II. On the TX antenna, I see noise levels
> between S1 and S3 (this is with the receiver's preamp off and RF gain
> wide open).
>
> But, to the point: what I heard is, then, typical for 160. My friend
> is right: it's a masochist's band!? I'll play more with the gray line
> (I find early morning seems more productive than evening) and see how
> things are. My hat's off to anyone that makes? 160 DXCC! Heck, 160
> WAS seems a worthy goal!
>
> Happy New Year and 73,
>
> Kim N5OP
>
>
> At 08:38 PM 12/31/2009, you wrote:
>>Kim,
>>
>>Last night was pretty typical for us. Lots of qsb. On my NE beverage,
>>signals out of EU were S1-S5 (noise floor S1). If you were listening on
>>the TX antenna, you probably had S7-S9 noise, making the DX seem very
>>weak. Try right at the gray line. Noise is lowest and signals are
>>strongest. Stations spotting EU as "booming" are usually on the East
>>coast, but I have seen them as strong as S9 here...very rare.
>>
>>73, Bob K5SM
>>
>>
>>
>>Kim Elmore wrote:
>> > Well, I decided to gut out 160 last night and see what I could do.
>> > \\I figured out some better settings on the Orion II to help and used
>> > my K9AY loops to the best ability I had. I worked SM4CAN, F5IN, OM2XW
>> > and HA5JI. U se my 50 ft tower shunt fed through a remotely tunable
>> > L-network for transmitting. I had radials at one time, but the puppy
>> > (now dog) chewed them up. Still, the ground is saturated, so I should
>> > be doing relatively well.
>> >
>> > I kept seeing spots claiming that these guys were "booming" in. They
>> > never boomed in at my QTH. This was hard work. I used the amp with
>> > about 700 W output to work them, but I was amazed that even those
>> > they tended to be in the mud most of the time, I actually did work
>> > them. Honestly, if I had tuned across these signals hunting on my
>> > own, I'd have passed them right by declaring the path too poor to be
>> > useable. I caught these guys only through Internet spots.
>> >
>> > So, for you 160 veterans, I have this question: is this typical of
>> > 160, or am I simply a spoiled newbie? Are signals signals you can
>> > actually hear considered booming?
>> >
>> > Kim Elmore N5OP
>> >
>> > ______________________________________________________________
>> > OKDXA mailing list
>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/okdxa
>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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From n5ok at arrl.net  Tue Jan  5 12:22:12 2010
From: n5ok at arrl.net (Coy Day)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:22:12 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] RTTY Elmer?
In-Reply-To: <499FB7709BF1784595AB17FC8A572B5F023AE2A6@NDHV3004.na.corp.mckesson.com>
References: <499FB7709BF1784595AB17FC8A572B5F023AE2A6@NDHV3004.na.corp.mckesson.com>
Message-ID: <b505e745d7992eef4aa0a011da92d0e2.squirrel@webmail.atlinkwifi.com>

Charlie,

You might check out:  http://aa5au.com/rtty.html

Coy
-- 
Coy Day
20685 SW 29
Union City, OK 73090
405-483-5632




Calhoun, Charlie wrote:
> Happy New Year all!
>
>
>
> I ran the RTTY Roundup for the first time this year.  It was a lot of
> fun.  It wasn't a stellar effort.  I didn't work the entire period due
> to the kids being sick, so I had to take several breaks to help them.  I
> also got off to a slow start learning N1MM, which I hadn't used before
> but it seemed to be time to put CT behind me and move on to a test
> logger with more functionality, namely a digital interface.  I did
> manage to beat last year's Oklahoma SOLP entry, so I was pleased with
> the first time effort during this test.
>
>
>
> I have a question, though, that would help me with my operating practice
> for this contest and others in the future.
>
>
>
> I don't have a big fancy rig, I'm running a Yaesu FT-847.  It has DSP
> and I can adjust the high and low cut separately.  I've learned to do
> that and use it to the best of my ability.  The problem I found I had
> was with strong adjacent signals.  I adjusted the DSP so I had a band
> pass about the width of the RTTY signal.  I also adjusted the band pass
> filter on the rig to one side and worked near the edge of that side and
> that helped greatly with adjacent signals to that side.  But that still
> left the other side open.  The built in BPF in MMTTY also helped some
> but didn't do anything for the adjacent strong signals.  When I had a
> strong signal on the open side of the pass band it would overload the
> front end and I would lose the weak signal in my DSP pass band.
>
>
>
> Is there anything else I might try to attenuate signals out of the
> passband so they don't overload the front end?  One thing I didn't try
> was the attenuator.  With some suggestions, I'll try some things during
> NAQP CW this weekend.
>
>
>
> I also have an older Icom IC-736, but I don't use it much for 2 reasons.
> It doesn't have DSP and I don't currently have it hooked up for Rig
> control, but if suggestions are made to try it in comparison, I can do
> that too.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>
>
> 73
>
> Charlie Calhoun, K5TTT
>
>
>
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From k5sm.bob at gmail.com  Tue Jan  5 13:00:57 2010
From: k5sm.bob at gmail.com (Robert Redmon)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:00:57 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] RTTY Elmer?
In-Reply-To: <499FB7709BF1784595AB17FC8A572B5F023AE2A6@NDHV3004.na.corp.mckesson.com>
References: <499FB7709BF1784595AB17FC8A572B5F023AE2A6@NDHV3004.na.corp.mckesson.com>
Message-ID: <4B437E59.6070004@gmail.com>

Charlie,

Welcome to RTTY contesting! It is very much fun once you get the hang of 
it. It seems you are doing everything you can do with the radio you 
have, but using the attenuator when necessary will certainly help with 
the front end overload. The most troublesome problems are caused by guys 
running afsk who don't have their radio's adjusted properly or who leave 
their compressor on resulting in very broad signals. When that is 
amplified by a big amp, big problems result. The guys on PSK 31 police 
that pretty well, but the RTTY crowd seems oblivious. When you run 
across one of those signals, a few khz off it sounds almost like bad key 
clicks.

73, Bob K5SM



Calhoun, Charlie wrote:
> Happy New Year all!
>
>  
>
> I ran the RTTY Roundup for the first time this year.  It was a lot of
> fun.  It wasn't a stellar effort.  I didn't work the entire period due
> to the kids being sick, so I had to take several breaks to help them.  I
> also got off to a slow start learning N1MM, which I hadn't used before
> but it seemed to be time to put CT behind me and move on to a test
> logger with more functionality, namely a digital interface.  I did
> manage to beat last year's Oklahoma SOLP entry, so I was pleased with
> the first time effort during this test.
>
>  
>
> I have a question, though, that would help me with my operating practice
> for this contest and others in the future.
>
>  
>
> I don't have a big fancy rig, I'm running a Yaesu FT-847.  It has DSP
> and I can adjust the high and low cut separately.  I've learned to do
> that and use it to the best of my ability.  The problem I found I had
> was with strong adjacent signals.  I adjusted the DSP so I had a band
> pass about the width of the RTTY signal.  I also adjusted the band pass
> filter on the rig to one side and worked near the edge of that side and
> that helped greatly with adjacent signals to that side.  But that still
> left the other side open.  The built in BPF in MMTTY also helped some
> but didn't do anything for the adjacent strong signals.  When I had a
> strong signal on the open side of the pass band it would overload the
> front end and I would lose the weak signal in my DSP pass band.  
>
>  
>
> Is there anything else I might try to attenuate signals out of the
> passband so they don't overload the front end?  One thing I didn't try
> was the attenuator.  With some suggestions, I'll try some things during
> NAQP CW this weekend.
>
>  
>
> I also have an older Icom IC-736, but I don't use it much for 2 reasons.
> It doesn't have DSP and I don't currently have it hooked up for Rig
> control, but if suggestions are made to try it in comparison, I can do
> that too.
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>  
>
> 73
>
> Charlie Calhoun, K5TTT 
>
>  
>
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From aa5jg at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  5 15:42:13 2010
From: aa5jg at yahoo.com (John Geiger)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 12:42:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [OKDXA] RTTY Elmer?
In-Reply-To: <499FB7709BF1784595AB17FC8A572B5F023AE2A6@NDHV3004.na.corp.mckesson.com>
Message-ID: <49124.35040.qm@web45106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi Charlie,

Your experience sounds very similar to mine.  I made about 90 QSOs in the RTTY Ru as it was a busy weekend here also and lots of good football on TV. I am also pretty new to N1MM logging software.  I now only use it for RTTY as I still prefer NA for other contests, but use N1MM so I can get both its window and MMTTY on the screen at the same time.  I tried using the MMTTY plug in with N1MM and they function nicely together but I need to do a little work getting the messages set up so I quickly reverted back to having N1MM and MMTTY running separate.  

I do not use the computer for rig control.

I am using a FT857D which is probably set up fairly similar to the FT847.  The one thing you did not mention was whether you had a narrow filter installed in the rig or not.  I was using a 300hz CW filter during the contest and it makes all of the difference in the world.  I don't even mess with the DSP bandpass settings or the BPF in MMTTY as those are both at the AF level. Your ears might not here the adjacent frequency QRM but the rig's AGC will and will respond accordingly.  

I don't know if you can use a narrow CW filter on AFSK in the FT847 or not.  You can in the FT857D both in the SSB mode and the DIG mode.  I just left it in the SSB mode, but on the FT100D I have had in the past you had to switch to DIG mode to use the narrow CW filter for AFSK.

Hope this helps a bit.  Give a narrow CW filter a try if you have one installed during the next RTTY contest and see if that clears up some of the problems.

73s JOhn AA5JG

--- On Tue, 1/5/10, Calhoun, Charlie <Charlie.Calhoun at RelayHealth.com> wrote:

> From: Calhoun, Charlie <Charlie.Calhoun at RelayHealth.com>
> Subject: [OKDXA] RTTY Elmer?
> To: okdxa at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 7:50 AM
> Happy New Year all!
> 
>  
> 
> I ran the RTTY Roundup for the first time this year.?
> It was a lot of
> fun.? It wasn't a stellar effort.? I didn't work
> the entire period due
> to the kids being sick, so I had to take several breaks to
> help them.? I
> also got off to a slow start learning N1MM, which I hadn't
> used before
> but it seemed to be time to put CT behind me and move on to
> a test
> logger with more functionality, namely a digital
> interface.? I did
> manage to beat last year's Oklahoma SOLP entry, so I was
> pleased with
> the first time effort during this test.
> 
>  
> 
> I have a question, though, that would help me with my
> operating practice
> for this contest and others in the future.
> 
>  
> 
> I don't have a big fancy rig, I'm running a Yaesu
> FT-847.? It has DSP
> and I can adjust the high and low cut separately.?
> I've learned to do
> that and use it to the best of my ability.? The
> problem I found I had
> was with strong adjacent signals.? I adjusted the DSP
> so I had a band
> pass about the width of the RTTY signal.? I also
> adjusted the band pass
> filter on the rig to one side and worked near the edge of
> that side and
> that helped greatly with adjacent signals to that
> side.? But that still
> left the other side open.? The built in BPF in MMTTY
> also helped some
> but didn't do anything for the adjacent strong
> signals.? When I had a
> strong signal on the open side of the pass band it would
> overload the
> front end and I would lose the weak signal in my DSP pass
> band.? 
> 
>  
> 
> Is there anything else I might try to attenuate signals out
> of the
> passband so they don't overload the front end?? One
> thing I didn't try
> was the attenuator.? With some suggestions, I'll try
> some things during
> NAQP CW this weekend.
> 
>  
> 
> I also have an older Icom IC-736, but I don't use it much
> for 2 reasons.
> It doesn't have DSP and I don't currently have it hooked up
> for Rig
> control, but if suggestions are made to try it in
> comparison, I can do
> that too.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
>  
> 
> 73
> 
> Charlie Calhoun, K5TTT 
> 
>  
> 
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From plaws0 at gmail.com  Tue Jan  5 17:07:25 2010
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:07:25 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] RTTY Elmer?
In-Reply-To: <49124.35040.qm@web45106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <499FB7709BF1784595AB17FC8A572B5F023AE2A6@NDHV3004.na.corp.mckesson.com>
	<49124.35040.qm@web45106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2538cc001001051407n7873a045i94b2e21eb2e593ed@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 14:42, John Geiger <aa5jg at yahoo.com> wrote:

> for other contests, but use N1MM so I can get both its window and MMTTY on the screen at the same time. ?I tried using the MMTTY plug in with N1MM and they function nicely together but I need to do a little work getting the messages set up so I quickly reverted back to having N1MM and MMTTY running separate.


Yeah, Macros are critical.  Shorter is better, minimum of fluff.  When
I get home later, I'll send you a file you can import into N1MM to get
you started (change the call!!! :-)

Running the two together probably would have increased your QSOs by
50%.  Rig control is also worth the effort since it will pull in the
band/mode info from the radio - still fewer keystrokes.


> I am using a FT857D which is probably set up fairly similar to the FT847. ?The one thing you did not mention was whether you had a narrow filter installed in the rig or not. ?I was using a 300hz CW filter during the contest and it makes all of the difference in the world. ?I don't even mess with the DSP bandpass settings or the BPF in MMTTY as those are both at the AF level. Your ears might not here the adjacent frequency QRM but the rig's AGC will and will respond accordingly.


Not familiar with the Yaesus so don't know their filter capabilities.
MMTTY's filters are at the AF stage, but are said to be very good at
what they do.  Also a lot of tweaking is available for those that care
to do that.  I don't and let the IC746Pro do it all - the RTTY TPF set
to 350 Hz works for me if I need it, otherwise I usually run 500-Hz.

Also note that MMTTY is now being maintained by Dave, AA6YQ, who is
the author of the DX Lab Suite.  A v1.66H is forthcoming.


-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  5 21:25:30 2010
From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:25:30 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] 160 last night...
In-Reply-To: <392620.75150.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <161037.12272.qm@smtp119.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<392620.75150.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <559792.51363.qm@smtp116.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi Ken,

Thanks for the info. I find 160 a fascinating band, but I don't have 
enough trouble sleeping to really make the most of it. That, and I 
have kids, a wife, a day job...

I know that the K9AY loops are a poor substitute for Beverages. I 
just haven't screwed up enough chutzpa to make the Beverage 
commitment. I was heartened, though, to learn that if I use the amp I 
can be heard under such poor conditions. I was not making it al all 
with only 100 watts, but with 18-10 dB more, ii was doing OK. I also 
know that a vertical with poor radials is a good way to keep worms 
warm, but I'll work with what I can manage right now and shoot for 
improvements as time and resources permit.

160 is a strange beast. I have to marvel at the guys make 160 DXCC 
from anywhere away from sea water. I also have to marvel at the guys 
that ran 500 kHz for a living back in the day of CW marine communications.

73,

Kim N5OP

At 12:34 AM 1/5/2010, Kenneth Case wrote:
>Hi Kim,
>
>I was not on the night you mention (have been doing chores from a 
>higher authority).  Since my transceiver is also an OII, thought I'd respond.
>
>My location is west of Stillwater in the middle of nowhere.  The 
>closest neighbor is about 0.8 miles away.  So, it is a quiet 
>place.  There will be times when the noise level is S1 even with the 
>TX antenna in use for receiving.  Those times are rare.  More 
>typical is noise of S3 or S4 with the preamp on, RF gain up, and 
>using the TX antenna.
>
>With the TX antenna, there are some nights when EU or Russian or JA 
>stations will be well over S9.
>
>These days, however, almost always the RX antenna will be used for 
>receiving.  There are two bi-directional 720 foot Beverages using 
>DXEngineering boxes.  The signals will be much lower, but the 
>reduced noise makes it MUCH more pleasant to copy.  There is nothing 
>quite like a good night of DX stations running S6-7-8-9 on the very 
>quiet Beverages.  For comparison, I have a K9AY, and have used it 
>for years.  It really helps reduce the noise; however, it cannot 
>match the Beverages, despite being quite a difference maker on many 
>QSOs when compared to the TX antenna.
>
>Keep in mind that we are talking about some really good 
>nights.  There will be many times when the signals are more like you 
>described.  They are close to the noise level, Q5 on peaks, and yet 
>inaudible on lows - there is a lot of QSB to contend with on 
>160M.   It can be very frustrating (yes, masochistic) when, due to 
>QSB, some people are unable to copy, while others in another part of 
>the country copy Q5.  This brings on a lot of calling when the DX is sending.
>
>The gray line can be a huge help - for example at our sunset, EU's 
>sunrise, our sunrise, JA's sunset, etc.  Things often start to pick 
>up noticeably about 15-20 minutes before either stations' sunrise, 
>and may carry on for 5-15 minutes after sunrise.  Don't give up 
>right at a DX station's sunrise like many do.  Hang in, because they 
>may stay loud and you can work them without too much competition.
>
>One other thing.  Don't get too carried away by what others are 
>saying or the reports they are giving.  For example, a 559 on 160M 
>often means "I can hear you just above noise level and you are 
>Q4-5."  Or, a "559 QSB" may mean the same thing PLUS "... and when 
>you drop down, I'm lucky to hear you at all."  Continuing, when you 
>hear somebody mention a big signal, it may be a bit relative to what 
>is expected.  For example, if HS0ZEE (Thailand) is coming through 
>just above the noise and is Q4-5 for 2 to 5 minutes, there will be 
>many raving about his signal.  That is because we may only hear him 
>a few times per year, so RELATIVELY speaking, he is loud.
>
>Any way you slice it, 160M is a fun band, and also kind of a tough 
>band from OK.
>
>73 Ken K5KC


From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  5 21:27:12 2010
From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:27:12 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] 160 last night...
In-Reply-To: <7596f765a88a30134c65500d5089092a.squirrel@webmail.atlinkwi
	fi.com>
References: <392620.75150.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<7596f765a88a30134c65500d5089092a.squirrel@webmail.atlinkwifi.com>
Message-ID: <622309.31582.qm@smtp115.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi Coy,

Thanks for your take on 160. I need more experience with the band, 
and conditions right now seem ideal for just that.

73,

Kim N5OP

At 11:12 AM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
>Kim,
>
>Ken did a better job than I could ever have done in giving you a run down
>on the 160 meter band.
>
>I do have one thing to add and it is a bit strange.  It is called the spot
>light effect.  Often on 160 a particular area is hearing the dx station
>very loud while others are barely able to copy and they may be only a few
>miles away.  I have had this happen to me.  I've caught stations when they
>were strong for me but no one else worked them. This is a small miracle
>because I use my transmit slopers for receiving antennas.  These occasions
>are rare but are a real joy when they happen.
>
>The band is full of mystery like this.  Enjoy it!
>
>Coy
>--
>Coy Day, N5OK
>20685 SW 29
>Union City, OK 73090
>405-483-5632
>
>
>
>
>Kenneth Case wrote:
> > Hi Kim,
> >
> > I was not on the night you mention (have been doing chores from a higher
> > authority).  Since my transceiver is also an OII, thought I'd respond.
> >
> > My location is west of Stillwater in the middle of nowhere.  The closest
> > neighbor is about 0.8 miles away.  So, it is a quiet place.  There will be
> > times when the noise level is S1 even with the TX antenna in use for
> > receiving.  Those times are rare.  More typical is noise of S3 or S4 with
> > the preamp on, RF gain up, and using the TX antenna.
> >
> > With the TX antenna, there are some nights when EU or Russian or JA
> > stations will be well over S9.
> >
> > These days, however, almost always the RX antenna will be used for
> > receiving.  There are two bi-directional 720 foot Beverages using
> > DXEngineering boxes.  The signals will be much lower, but the reduced
> > noise makes it MUCH more pleasant to copy.  There is nothing quite like a
> > good night of DX stations running S6-7-8-9 on the very quiet Beverages.
> > For comparison, I have a K9AY, and have used it for years.  It really
> > helps reduce the noise; however, it cannot match the Beverages, despite
> > being quite a difference maker on many QSOs when compared to the TX
> > antenna.
> >
> > Keep in mind that we are talking about some really good nights.  There
> > will be many times when the signals are more like you described.  They are
> > close to the noise level, Q5 on peaks, and yet inaudible on lows - there
> > is a lot of QSB to contend with on 160M.   It can be very frustrating
> > (yes, masochistic) when, due to QSB, some people are unable to copy, while
> > others in another part of the country copy Q5.  This brings on a lot of
> > calling when the DX is sending.
> >
> > The gray line can be a huge help - for example at our sunset, EU's
> > sunrise, our sunrise, JA's sunset, etc.  Things often start to pick up
> > noticeably about 15-20 minutes before either stations' sunrise, and may
> > carry on for 5-15 minutes after sunrise.  Don't give up right at a DX
> > station's sunrise like many do.  Hang in, because they may stay loud and
> > you can work them without too much competition.
> >
> > One other thing.  Don't get too carried away by what others are saying or
> > the reports they are giving.  For example, a 559 on 160M often means "I
> > can hear you just above noise level and you are Q4-5."  Or, a "559
> > QSB" may mean the same thing PLUS "... and when you drop down, I'm lucky
> > to hear you at all."  Continuing, when you hear somebody mention a big
> > signal, it may be a bit relative to what is expected.  For example, if
> > HS0ZEE (Thailand) is coming through just above the noise and is Q4-5 for 2
> > to 5 minutes, there will be many raving about his signal.  That is because
> > we may only hear him a few times per year, so RELATIVELY speaking, he is
> > loud.
> >
> > Any way you slice it, 160M is a fun band, and also kind of a tough band
> > from OK.
> >
> > 73 Ken K5KC
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 1/1/10, Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [OKDXA] 160 last night...
> > To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
> > Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 5:22 AM
> >
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Thanks for the assessment.
> >
> > I was listening on my Array Solutions K9AY loop system. I'm lucky in
> > that I live in a very radio-quiet place: between E 48th and E 60th on
> > Robinson, east of Norman. I did a W8JI test early on and found that
> > in Summer my night time noise levels far exceeded my daytime noise
> > levels, indicating I'm in a radio quiet location. The loops do help
> > quite a bit: tonight, the loops with the loop preamp on and the
> > bandwidth dialed down to about 400 Hz yields a noise level typically
> > less than S1 on my Orion II. On the TX antenna, I see noise levels
> > between S1 and S3 (this is with the receiver's preamp off and RF gain
> > wide open).
> >
> > But, to the point: what I heard is, then, typical for 160. My friend
> > is right: it's a masochist's band!  I'll play more with the gray line
> > (I find early morning seems more productive than evening) and see how
> > things are. My hat's off to anyone that makes  160 DXCC! Heck, 160
> > WAS seems a worthy goal!
> >
> > Happy New Year and 73,
> >
> > Kim N5OP
> >
> >
> > At 08:38 PM 12/31/2009, you wrote:
> >>Kim,
> >>
> >>Last night was pretty typical for us. Lots of qsb. On my NE beverage,
> >>signals out of EU were S1-S5 (noise floor S1). If you were listening on
> >>the TX antenna, you probably had S7-S9 noise, making the DX seem very
> >>weak. Try right at the gray line. Noise is lowest and signals are
> >>strongest. Stations spotting EU as "booming" are usually on the East
> >>coast, but I have seen them as strong as S9 here...very rare.
> >>
> >>73, Bob K5SM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Kim Elmore wrote:
> >> > Well, I decided to gut out 160 last night and see what I could do.
> >> > \\I figured out some better settings on the Orion II to help and used
> >> > my K9AY loops to the best ability I had. I worked SM4CAN, F5IN, OM2XW
> >> > and HA5JI. U se my 50 ft tower shunt fed through a remotely tunable
> >> > L-network for transmitting. I had radials at one time, but the puppy
> >> > (now dog) chewed them up. Still, the ground is saturated, so I should
> >> > be doing relatively well.
> >> >
> >> > I kept seeing spots claiming that these guys were "booming" in. They
> >> > never boomed in at my QTH. This was hard work. I used the amp with
> >> > about 700 W output to work them, but I was amazed that even those
> >> > they tended to be in the mud most of the time, I actually did work
> >> > them. Honestly, if I had tuned across these signals hunting on my
> >> > own, I'd have passed them right by declaring the path too poor to be
> >> > useable. I caught these guys only through Internet spots.
> >> >
> >> > So, for you 160 veterans, I have this question: is this typical of
> >> > 160, or am I simply a spoiled newbie? Are signals signals you can
> >> > actually hear considered booming?
> >> >
> >> > Kim Elmore N5OP
> >> >
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From Charlie.Calhoun at RelayHealth.com  Wed Jan  6 09:54:17 2010
From: Charlie.Calhoun at RelayHealth.com (Calhoun, Charlie)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:54:17 -0500
Subject: [OKDXA] RTTY Elmer?
In-Reply-To: <2538cc001001051407n7873a045i94b2e21eb2e593ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <499FB7709BF1784595AB17FC8A572B5F023AE2A6@NDHV3004.na.corp.mckesson.com><49124.35040.qm@web45106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<2538cc001001051407n7873a045i94b2e21eb2e593ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <499FB7709BF1784595AB17FC8A572B5F024B6680@NDHV3004.na.corp.mckesson.com>

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.  Here's a synopsis for the
archives.

1.  I need to utilize both edges of the pass band with IF shift.
2.  Use the attenuator when necessary.
3.  Use IF filters in the rig.  I have the 2.5KHz SSB filter installed
but the 500Hz CW filter would be better for this application.  The only
problem there is that I key the rig from the PC and the rig keys from
the key jack when in CW mode.  I always operate USB when running
digital.  My rig can kick in the CW filter in LSB/CW mode, so I can do
that and reverse the tones if needed.

I found some additional details on my rig and how the filters will help.
This explains almost exactly what I'm experiencing.

The IF bandwidth of the rig with the stock filters is wide enough that
the rig hears the signal you are centered on plus nearby signals that
you might or might not hear. You can use the DSP and the IF shift to
suppress those unwanted adjacent signals, and the DSP works superbly
well for that purpose.

However, those adjacent signals, even if you can't hear them (because
you've got your DSP on), can still affect the signal that you are
listening to. Since those adjacent signals are getting into the IF, they
affect the AGC control of your radio. If the adjacent signals are strong
enough, then the AGC will activate and will reduce the strength of the
signal passed to the audio circuitry (and the DSP). Thus, the signal you
want to listen to will be suppressed as well, sometimes to the point of
being inaudible. This action is called "AGC pumping." Since you can't
turn off the AGC on the FT-847, you're stuck.

By using supplemental filters designed to further restrict the IF
bandwidth, you will suppress the adjacent signals much more deeply than
the stock ceramic filters, and the AGC action will be substantially
reduced. Radios much more expensive than the FT-847 tend to have better
filters built in; it's really a case of paying for what you get.

Overall, I think I was pretty close to getting all I could get from the
rig.  My understanding of the methods to eliminate the front end
overload have been confirmed.  It's a good lesson on how the rigs and
IF/AF filters work.

I'm not a knob turner!  I want to be able to squeak out as much
performance as I can with what I've got.  Hopefully someone else can
benefit from this information too.

Thanks again everyone!  We'll see how I do in WPX RTTY.

73
Charlie, K5TTT

From dave at mcloudteleco.com  Thu Jan  7 08:59:59 2010
From: dave at mcloudteleco.com (Dave)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:59:59 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] E-MAIL ADDRESS CHANGE
Message-ID: <4CA11ABA1DA44208BEE6C7174C06701B@zeus>

Please change my e-mail address to: ddgold at cox.net

 

Many thanks.

 

73, Dave (NE5S)


From kc5fm at aol.com  Fri Jan  8 23:45:06 2010
From: kc5fm at aol.com (kc5fm at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 04:45:06 +0000
Subject: [OKDXA] OK QSO party
Message-ID: <474139851-1263012281-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-541937377-@bda888.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>


Is there any news about the OK QSO party in March?

Thanks

73

Lloyd


From w5le at beggstelco.net  Sat Jan  9 01:20:35 2010
From: w5le at beggstelco.net (W5LE - Gene Lewis)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 00:20:35 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] OK QSO party
References: <474139851-1263012281-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-541937377-@bda888.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <EF5E1BC8FEB041B9AC0F7541361101AB@Gene>

News as to the scheduled weekend should be forthcoming from Jerry, K5YAA 
soon.
Gene

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kc5fm at aol.com>
To: <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:45 PM
Subject: [OKDXA] OK QSO party


>
> Is there any news about the OK QSO party in March?
>
> Thanks
>
> 73
>
> Lloyd
>
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From kc5fm at aim.com  Sat Jan  9 12:32:41 2010
From: kc5fm at aim.com (kc5fm)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:32:41 -0500
Subject: [OKDXA] OK QSO party
Message-ID: <8CC5F68E16AE7B1-D58-1209E@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com>

Thanks!

Don't want to miss out this year.

Locally, I'm considering mobile operations on Saturday in SW OK.  Also, 
I'll be asking the club to sponsor an award.

Of course, I wanted to do mobile operations LAST year but life 
interferes with my hobby sometimes, OK ... al LOT.   :)

73




Lloyd, KC5FM

From k5yaa at okdxa.org  Thu Jan 14 18:24:03 2010
From: k5yaa at okdxa.org (Jerry Chouinard)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:24:03 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] 2010 Oklahoma QSO Party
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100114165757.00bb6008@okdxa.org>

Another year and our opportunity for another year of Amateur Radio 
activities in Oklahoma.

Consider this the first of a handful of reminders about the 2010 running of 
the Oklahoma QSO Party.  Prepare your Land Rush mobile be it a Conestoga 
wagon, open bed wagon, or bicycle, whatever vehicle you can mount a radio 
in and antenna on.  Get out and claim as many counties as you can during 
the QSO Party time frame.  We would like to see all 77 counties claimed and 
operated from again this year as they have been the past 3 years.  I expect 
there will be a number of Land Grabbers waiting at the borders of Texas, 
Kansas and Arkansas to claim their stake in this years party.  The more the 
merrier an event it will be.

Dates for this year's running are March 20 and 21.  Soon the rules page 
will be posted on the web  until then stock up on supplies and grease the 
wheels of whatever vehicle you can run in.  If you don't like dust, the 
possibility of repairs having to be made and stops at far and few between 
fuel and eating establishments then plan to operate from a QTH claimed 
before the Land Rush begins. In other words, All Sooner operators are 
indeed welcomed by those from outside the state and those struggling to 
claim counties within.

While you are marking your calendars put the Green Country HamFest on there 
for Mar. 13 and 14.  The OKDXA will hold a meeting at the fest.

K5YAA


From richie at mywebplace.net  Fri Jan 15 01:08:13 2010
From: richie at mywebplace.net (Richie)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:08:13 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] FW:  2010 Oklahoma QSO Party
Message-ID: <76823CBFB7114235AF745E797C5173E9@OKDLJ080344594>

Correction.

Green Country Hamfest is Friday and Saturday, March 12th and 13th.

Per OKDXA feedback, this year the Grand Prize will be a K3.

See you there.

73
Richie
W5OKL


-----Original Message-----
From: okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Jerry Chouinard
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:24 PM
To: okdxa at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [OKDXA] 2010 Oklahoma QSO Party

Another year and our opportunity for another year of Amateur Radio 
activities in Oklahoma.

Consider this the first of a handful of reminders about the 2010 running of 
the Oklahoma QSO Party.  Prepare your Land Rush mobile be it a Conestoga 
wagon, open bed wagon, or bicycle, whatever vehicle you can mount a radio 
in and antenna on.  Get out and claim as many counties as you can during 
the QSO Party time frame.  We would like to see all 77 counties claimed and 
operated from again this year as they have been the past 3 years.  I expect 
there will be a number of Land Grabbers waiting at the borders of Texas, 
Kansas and Arkansas to claim their stake in this years party.  The more the 
merrier an event it will be.

Dates for this year's running are March 20 and 21.  Soon the rules page 
will be posted on the web  until then stock up on supplies and grease the 
wheels of whatever vehicle you can run in.  If you don't like dust, the 
possibility of repairs having to be made and stops at far and few between 
fuel and eating establishments then plan to operate from a QTH claimed 
before the Land Rush begins. In other words, All Sooner operators are 
indeed welcomed by those from outside the state and those struggling to 
claim counties within.

While you are marking your calendars put the Green Country HamFest on there 
for Mar. 13 and 14.  The OKDXA will hold a meeting at the fest.

K5YAA

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From k5yaa at okdxa.org  Fri Jan 15 01:26:17 2010
From: k5yaa at okdxa.org (Jerry Chouinard)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:26:17 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] FW:  2010 Oklahoma QSO Party
In-Reply-To: <76823CBFB7114235AF745E797C5173E9@OKDLJ080344594>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100115002440.00bfb910@okdxa.org>

Thanks Richie - my calendar reference point - Saturday the 20th ( OKQP 
start ) minus 7 caused me to offset by a day.  Great grand prize!

K5YAA

At 12:08 AM 1/15/2010 -0600, you wrote:
>Correction.
>
>Green Country Hamfest is Friday and Saturday, March 12th and 13th.
>
>Per OKDXA feedback, this year the Grand Prize will be a K3.
>
>See you there.
>
>73
>Richie
>W5OKL
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>On Behalf Of Jerry Chouinard
>Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:24 PM
>To: okdxa at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [OKDXA] 2010 Oklahoma QSO Party
>
>Another year and our opportunity for another year of Amateur Radio
>activities in Oklahoma.
>
>Consider this the first of a handful of reminders about the 2010 running of
>the Oklahoma QSO Party.  Prepare your Land Rush mobile be it a Conestoga
>wagon, open bed wagon, or bicycle, whatever vehicle you can mount a radio
>in and antenna on.  Get out and claim as many counties as you can during
>the QSO Party time frame.  We would like to see all 77 counties claimed and
>operated from again this year as they have been the past 3 years.  I expect
>there will be a number of Land Grabbers waiting at the borders of Texas,
>Kansas and Arkansas to claim their stake in this years party.  The more the
>merrier an event it will be.
>
>Dates for this year's running are March 20 and 21.  Soon the rules page
>will be posted on the web  until then stock up on supplies and grease the
>wheels of whatever vehicle you can run in.  If you don't like dust, the
>possibility of repairs having to be made and stops at far and few between
>fuel and eating establishments then plan to operate from a QTH claimed
>before the Land Rush begins. In other words, All Sooner operators are
>indeed welcomed by those from outside the state and those struggling to
>claim counties within.
>
>While you are marking your calendars put the Green Country HamFest on there
>for Mar. 13 and 14.  The OKDXA will hold a meeting at the fest.
>
>K5YAA
>
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From dave at mcloudteleco.com  Tue Jan 26 19:49:48 2010
From: dave at mcloudteleco.com (Dave)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:49:48 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Wednesday Luncheorn
Message-ID: <6EC45B9B260049218213F232B7835560@zeus>

Hello Everyone -

 

Wednesday's Luncheon will be held at the Golden Coral on the I-240 Service
Road which is located just East of Pennsylvania Avenue on the North side of
I-240. Lunch is scheduled to start at approximately 11:30 AM.

 

We look forward to seeing you there.

 

73, Dave (NE5S)


From aa5jg at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 29 15:38:02 2010
From: aa5jg at yahoo.com (John Geiger)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:38:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
Message-ID: <334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

How have other's antennas fared in the ice storm so far?  All of mine are still up, but the 6 meter yagi looks like a series of inverted vees right now.  The tree holding up one end of the dipole is about 2/3s on the ground now, but luckily the branches holding up the antenna are still up.  Hope everyone else came out of it as best as could be possible.

73s John AA5JG
Lawton


      


From plaws0 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 29 15:41:49 2010
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:41:49 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
In-Reply-To: <334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2538cc001001291241v5cbde0c6n743d85146c785c82@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 14:38, John Geiger <aa5jg at yahoo.com> wrote:
> How have other's antennas fared in the ice storm so far? ?All of mine are still up, but the 6 meter yagi looks like a series of inverted vees right now. ?The tree holding up one end of the dipole is about 2/3s on the ground now, but luckily the branches holding up the antenna are still up. ?Hope everyone else came out of it as best as could be possible.

WX5NWC Steppir is droopy, but still up.  N5UWY's dipoles, VHF loops,
and 2-m beam are OK ... so far.


-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From k5sm.bob at gmail.com  Fri Jan 29 15:44:34 2010
From: k5sm.bob at gmail.com (Robert Redmon)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:44:34 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
In-Reply-To: <334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B6348B2.7090803@gmail.com>

I was just worrying about you guys! I hope you all have power and not 
too much antenna damage. We just got a tiny bit of ice down 
here...lucked out this time. My worst problem is that my rotators are 
all frozen up.

Bob K5SM

John Geiger wrote:
> How have other's antennas fared in the ice storm so far?  All of mine are still up, but the 6 meter yagi looks like a series of inverted vees right now.  The tree holding up one end of the dipole is about 2/3s on the ground now, but luckily the branches holding up the antenna are still up.  Hope everyone else came out of it as best as could be possible.
>
> 73s John AA5JG
> Lawton
>
>
>       
>
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From k5yaa at okdxa.org  Fri Jan 29 16:10:31 2010
From: k5yaa at okdxa.org (Jerry Chouinard)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:10:31 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
In-Reply-To: <4B6348B2.7090803@gmail.com>
References: <334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100129150903.00bfe128@okdxa.org>

An easterners report.  2" of snow some ice but the Force beams are holding 
up fine.  Noticed a bit of change on my 40 meter beam SWR and the rotors on 
both towers turn a bit slowly but the end of March isn't that far away.

K5YAA

At 02:44 PM 1/29/2010 -0600, you wrote:
>I was just worrying about you guys! I hope you all have power and not
>too much antenna damage. We just got a tiny bit of ice down
>here...lucked out this time. My worst problem is that my rotators are
>all frozen up.
>
>Bob K5SM
>
>John Geiger wrote:
> > How have other's antennas fared in the ice storm so far?  All of mine 
> are still up, but the 6 meter yagi looks like a series of inverted vees 
> right now.  The tree holding up one end of the dipole is about 2/3s on 
> the ground now, but luckily the branches holding up the antenna are still 
> up.  Hope everyone else came out of it as best as could be possible.
> >
> > 73s John AA5JG
> > Lawton
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From n5ok at arrl.net  Fri Jan 29 16:27:33 2010
From: n5ok at arrl.net (Coy Day)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:27:33 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
In-Reply-To: <334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <13f12d3be688bde122f19283a736db17.squirrel@webmail.atlinkwifi.com>

Doing better than usual here with at least an inch of ice on all metal
surfaces.  The element ends on the T-10 are pointing straight down at the
ground with the weight of the ice.  Same with the rotatable 30 dipole. 
Two of my three 160m half wave slopers are on the ground.  Only the SW
sloper still up but coated with this inch of ice, so I'm sure it won't
load.  Guess that takes care of the 160m contest this weekend.  Rats! :^(
Ground has an inch of ice with about 4 inches of sleet on top of that and
now another 4-5 inches of snow.

Coy
-- 
Coy Day, N5OK
20685 SW 29
Union City, OK 73090
405-483-5632




John Geiger wrote:
> How have other's antennas fared in the ice storm so far?  All of mine are
> still up, but the 6 meter yagi looks like a series of inverted vees right
> now.  The tree holding up one end of the dipole is about 2/3s on the
> ground now, but luckily the branches holding up the antenna are still up.
> Hope everyone else came out of it as best as could be possible.
>
> 73s John AA5JG
> Lawton
>
>
>
>
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From k5yaa at okdxa.org  Fri Jan 29 16:57:29 2010
From: k5yaa at okdxa.org (Jerry Chouinard)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:57:29 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
In-Reply-To: <13f12d3be688bde122f19283a736db17.squirrel@webmail.atlinkwi
	fi.com>
References: <334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100129155547.00bfeae0@okdxa.org>

Had I not seen the photos of that major storm a couple of years back I 
would have
to ask "What do you mean better than usual?"  HI.  Pointing straight down 
sounds
a bit spooky.

K5YAA

At 03:27 PM 1/29/2010 -0600, you wrote:
>Doing better than usual here with at least an inch of ice on all metal
>surfaces.  The element ends on the T-10 are pointing straight down at the
>ground with the weight of the ice.  Same with the rotatable 30 dipole.
>Two of my three 160m half wave slopers are on the ground.  Only the SW
>sloper still up but coated with this inch of ice, so I'm sure it won't
>load.  Guess that takes care of the 160m contest this weekend.  Rats! :^(
>Ground has an inch of ice with about 4 inches of sleet on top of that and
>now another 4-5 inches of snow.
>
>Coy
>--
>Coy Day, N5OK
>20685 SW 29
>Union City, OK 73090
>405-483-5632
>
>
>
>
>John Geiger wrote:
> > How have other's antennas fared in the ice storm so far?  All of mine are
> > still up, but the 6 meter yagi looks like a series of inverted vees right
> > now.  The tree holding up one end of the dipole is about 2/3s on the
> > ground now, but luckily the branches holding up the antenna are still up.
> > Hope everyone else came out of it as best as could be possible.
> >
> > 73s John AA5JG
> > Lawton
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From aa5jg at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 29 16:57:58 2010
From: aa5jg at yahoo.com (John Geiger)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:57:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
In-Reply-To: <13f12d3be688bde122f19283a736db17.squirrel@webmail.atlinkwifi.com>
Message-ID: <528760.52163.qm@web45109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Wow, you got it worse than we did.  We got the 1/2 inch of ice or so, but no sleet, and only a light dusting of snow that has melted off of the streets already. Lots of branches and power lines down, though.  I have been lucky in that we power has only been off very briefly, and only when we were asleep or out of the house anyways.

Good luck to everyone with the cleanup.

73s John AA5JG


--- On Fri, 1/29/10, Coy Day <n5ok at arrl.net> wrote:

> From: Coy Day <n5ok at arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
> To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 3:27 PM
> Doing better than usual here with at
> least an inch of ice on all metal
> surfaces.? The element ends on the T-10 are pointing
> straight down at the
> ground with the weight of the ice.? Same with the
> rotatable 30 dipole. 
> Two of my three 160m half wave slopers are on the
> ground.? Only the SW
> sloper still up but coated with this inch of ice, so I'm
> sure it won't
> load.? Guess that takes care of the 160m contest this
> weekend.? Rats! :^(
> Ground has an inch of ice with about 4 inches of sleet on
> top of that and
> now another 4-5 inches of snow.
> 
> Coy
> -- 
> Coy Day, N5OK
> 20685 SW 29
> Union City, OK 73090
> 405-483-5632
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John Geiger wrote:
> > How have other's antennas fared in the ice storm so
> far?? All of mine are
> > still up, but the 6 meter yagi looks like a series of
> inverted vees right
> > now.? The tree holding up one end of the dipole
> is about 2/3s on the
> > ground now, but luckily the branches holding up the
> antenna are still up.
> > Hope everyone else came out of it as best as could be
> possible.
> >
> > 73s John AA5JG
> > Lawton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From k5sm.bob at gmail.com  Fri Jan 29 18:12:35 2010
From: k5sm.bob at gmail.com (Robert Redmon)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:12:35 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
In-Reply-To: <13f12d3be688bde122f19283a736db17.squirrel@webmail.atlinkwifi.com>
References: <334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<13f12d3be688bde122f19283a736db17.squirrel@webmail.atlinkwifi.com>
Message-ID: <4B636B63.7030907@gmail.com>

Coy, You must live in the convergence epicenter of ICE and wind! I will 
keep my fingers crossed you survive this one with no more damage.

73, Bob K5SM



Coy Day wrote:
> Doing better than usual here with at least an inch of ice on all metal
> surfaces.  The element ends on the T-10 are pointing straight down at the
> ground with the weight of the ice.  Same with the rotatable 30 dipole. 
> Two of my three 160m half wave slopers are on the ground.  Only the SW
> sloper still up but coated with this inch of ice, so I'm sure it won't
> load.  Guess that takes care of the 160m contest this weekend.  Rats! :^(
> Ground has an inch of ice with about 4 inches of sleet on top of that and
> now another 4-5 inches of snow.
>
> Coy
>   

From ad5pe at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 29 18:39:32 2010
From: ad5pe at sbcglobal.net (AD5PE)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:39:32 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
In-Reply-To: <334846.80602.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <873368.82938.qm@smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mine survived with no damage - but we only have 1/4 to maybe 3/8" of ice -
but 4+ inches of snow and still falling.  Winds stayed pretty light in
Tulsa.  This morning we had some gusts to 20, but generally 10-15 was more
common.

73,
Jay
AD5PE 

-----Original Message-----
From: okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of John Geiger
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 14:38
To: okdxa at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm

How have other's antennas fared in the ice storm so far?  All of mine are
still up, but the 6 meter yagi looks like a series of inverted vees right
now.  The tree holding up one end of the dipole is about 2/3s on the ground
now, but luckily the branches holding up the antenna are still up.  Hope
everyone else came out of it as best as could be possible.

73s John AA5JG
Lawton


      

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From w5if at valornet.com  Fri Jan 29 20:20:24 2010
From: w5if at valornet.com (w5if at valornet.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:20:24 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
In-Reply-To: <873368.82938.qm@smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20100129192024.JE1L3.581341.root@ispmxfep12-z02>

Here in Purcell the ice is/was bad.  Lost 10 element Bencher Skyhawk, Cushcraft D40 rotatable dipole, Cushcraft 12/17 3 element beam, wire antennas on 160, 80 and 30 meters.....6 meter survived so far but is drooping badly!  Wire antennas had 3" diameter ice on them.  Lots of tree damage, and electrical service pole snapped....No power for 30 hours and counting...thank goodness found a generator this morning!  Know anyone that wants to do some tower work?  
73
Glen W5IF

---- AD5PE <ad5pe at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> Mine survived with no damage - but we only have 1/4 to maybe 3/8" of ice -
> but 4+ inches of snow and still falling.  Winds stayed pretty light in
> Tulsa.  This morning we had some gusts to 20, but generally 10-15 was more
> common.
> 
> 73,
> Jay
> AD5PE 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of John Geiger
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 14:38
> To: okdxa at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
> 
> How have other's antennas fared in the ice storm so far?  All of mine are
> still up, but the 6 meter yagi looks like a series of inverted vees right
> now.  The tree holding up one end of the dipole is about 2/3s on the ground
> now, but luckily the branches holding up the antenna are still up.  Hope
> everyone else came out of it as best as could be possible.
> 
> 73s John AA5JG
> Lawton
> 
> 
>       
> 
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From rga1k5sit at cebridge.net  Fri Jan 29 21:07:10 2010
From: rga1k5sit at cebridge.net (rga1k5sit at cebridge.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:07:10 -0500
Subject: [OKDXA] Fwd: STORM 2nd try
Message-ID: <20100130020715.4D5753738133@mailman.qth.net>


From rga1k5sit at cebridge.net  Fri Jan 29 21:10:27 2010
From: rga1k5sit at cebridge.net (rga1k5sit at cebridge.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:10:27 -0500
Subject: [OKDXA] Woodward storm
Message-ID: <20100130021027.E4E8237381A3@mailman.qth.net>


From rga1k5sit at cebridge.net  Fri Jan 29 19:25:15 2010
From: rga1k5sit at cebridge.net (rga1k5sit at cebridge.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:25:15 -0500
Subject: [OKDXA] STORM
Message-ID: <20100130021622.AAEBC3738182@mailman.qth.net>


From ac5up at windstream.net  Fri Jan 29 22:38:56 2010
From: ac5up at windstream.net (Nelson Derks)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:38:56 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
In-Reply-To: <873368.82938.qm@smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <873368.82938.qm@smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B63A9D0.5000606@windstream.net>

Note to K5SIT:

Yer' shootin' blanks.

This mail reflector will strip HTML so be sure you're sending plain text 
only... No format or control codes.

From k5yaa at okdxa.org  Sat Jan 30 00:42:17 2010
From: k5yaa at okdxa.org (Jerry Chouinard)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:42:17 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Woodward WX
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100129234113.00c04c40@okdxa.org>

Bob:

The ice must really be heavy out in Woodward.  Your messages aren't getting 
past the outside of the building you are in.

K5YAA


From rga1k5sit at cebridge.net  Sat Jan 30 07:12:32 2010
From: rga1k5sit at cebridge.net (rga1k5sit at cebridge.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:12:32 -0500
Subject: [OKDXA] Storm 3rd try. Thanks Nelson
Message-ID: <20100130121237.83E9E3738114@mailman.qth.net>


From rga1k5sit at cebridge.net  Sat Jan 30 07:20:34 2010
From: rga1k5sit at cebridge.net (rga1k5sit at cebridge.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:20:34 -0500
Subject: [OKDXA] 4th try on storm tnx Nelson
Message-ID: <20100130122039.E2F0E3738114@mailman.qth.net>


From rga1k5sit at cebridge.net  Sat Jan 30 07:40:44 2010
From: rga1k5sit at cebridge.net (BR LAPTOP)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:40:44 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] 5th try on storm
Message-ID: <26B1246940F24B058C4B9B9FAFF53E7D@BEDROOMLAPTOP>

Ok I went back to Outlook Express.

I dodged the nasty stuff here in Woodward. Got 7" of snow and noooo ice!

I feel for you guys that got the ice. In the last "BIG" storm I lost all my beams and 
did not have power for about a week.

Hope the text goes through this time.

Bob k5sit 73 es gud dx.

From k9kk at atlinkwifi.com  Sat Jan 30 08:29:02 2010
From: k9kk at atlinkwifi.com (Rick vidmar - k9kk)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:29:02 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
In-Reply-To: <20100129192024.JE1L3.581341.root@ispmxfep12-z02>
References: <20100129192024.JE1L3.581341.root@ispmxfep12-z02>
Message-ID: <4B64341E.9070002@atlinkwifi.com>

how about 220 and 440 yagis

w5if at valornet.com wrote:
> Here in Purcell the ice is/was bad.  Lost 10 element Bencher Skyhawk, Cushcraft D40 rotatable dipole, Cushcraft 12/17 3 element beam, wire antennas on 160, 80 and 30 meters.....6 meter survived so far but is drooping badly!  Wire antennas had 3" diameter ice on them.  Lots of tree damage, and electrical service pole snapped....No power for 30 hours and counting...thank goodness found a generator this morning!  Know anyone that wants to do some tower work?  
> 73
> Glen W5IF
>
> ---- AD5PE <ad5pe at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
>   
>> Mine survived with no damage - but we only have 1/4 to maybe 3/8" of ice -
>> but 4+ inches of snow and still falling.  Winds stayed pretty light in
>> Tulsa.  This morning we had some gusts to 20, but generally 10-15 was more
>> common.
>>
>> 73,
>> Jay
>> AD5PE 
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>> On Behalf Of John Geiger
>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 14:38
>> To: okdxa at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
>>
>> How have other's antennas fared in the ice storm so far?  All of mine are
>> still up, but the 6 meter yagi looks like a series of inverted vees right
>> now.  The tree holding up one end of the dipole is about 2/3s on the ground
>> now, but luckily the branches holding up the antenna are still up.  Hope
>> everyone else came out of it as best as could be possible.
>>
>> 73s John AA5JG
>> Lawton
>>
>>
>>       
>>
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From k5sm.bob at gmail.com  Sat Jan 30 09:54:20 2010
From: k5sm.bob at gmail.com (Robert Redmon)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:54:20 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] cq 160
Message-ID: <4B64481C.9030800@att.net>

Although I have not been able to devote much time to it, conditions on 
160 are the best I can remember them during a contest.

-- 
73, Bob K5SM


From aa5jg at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 30 10:08:12 2010
From: aa5jg at yahoo.com (John Geiger)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:08:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [OKDXA] cq 160
In-Reply-To: <4B64481C.9030800@att.net>
Message-ID: <249951.31928.qm@web45106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I found them pretty good also. Worked KL7RA so I am now 2 states away from WAS on 160. Also worked C6AKQ for a new country!

73s John AA5JG

--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
> Subject: [OKDXA] cq 160
> To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 8:54 AM
> Although I have not been able to
> devote much time to it, conditions on 
> 160 are the best I can remember them during a contest.
> 
> -- 
> 73, Bob K5SM
> 
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From k5sm.bob at gmail.com  Sat Jan 30 10:18:14 2010
From: k5sm.bob at gmail.com (Robert Redmon)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:18:14 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] cq 160
In-Reply-To: <249951.31928.qm@web45106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <249951.31928.qm@web45106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B644DB6.5000806@gmail.com>

Speaking of WAS on 160, I have had all but DE for years. Can't seem to 
get anyone from there to qsl using LoTW. I have never collected WAS 
cards, but since LoTW came along, have tracked progress and now have WAS 
on several bands and modes, but the only one I really care about is 160 
(for reasons I cannot explain). Missed KL7RA so far this time, but am 
approaching WAS during the contest. Worked all but (KL7) MT, DE, MS, and 
DC, last night and this morning, but I am sure they are there, just 
haven't found them yet. Did hear W7LR (MT), but he was not calling cq.

73, Bob K5SM



John Geiger wrote:
> I found them pretty good also. Worked KL7RA so I am now 2 states away from WAS on 160. Also worked C6AKQ for a new country!
>
> 73s John AA5JG
>
> --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [OKDXA] cq 160
>> To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 8:54 AM
>> Although I have not been able to
>> devote much time to it, conditions on 
>> 160 are the best I can remember them during a contest.
>>
>> -- 
>> 73, Bob K5SM
>>
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From aa5jg at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 30 10:23:32 2010
From: aa5jg at yahoo.com (John Geiger)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:23:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [OKDXA] cq 160
In-Reply-To: <4B644DB6.5000806@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <771725.95644.qm@web45104.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi Bob,

I need ND and ID for WAS on 160 now, plus a couple more QSLs.  Heard N4OGW on from MS last night, as well as K7BG from MT.  AA1K is usually on from DE and I have worked him on 160, but not sure if he does LOTW or not.

73s John AA5JG

--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OKDXA] cq 160
> To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 9:18 AM
> Speaking of WAS on 160, I have had
> all but DE for years. Can't seem to 
> get anyone from there to qsl using LoTW. I have never
> collected WAS 
> cards, but since LoTW came along, have tracked progress and
> now have WAS 
> on several bands and modes, but the only one I really care
> about is 160 
> (for reasons I cannot explain). Missed KL7RA so far this
> time, but am 
> approaching WAS during the contest. Worked all but (KL7)
> MT, DE, MS, and 
> DC, last night and this morning, but I am sure they are
> there, just 
> haven't found them yet. Did hear W7LR (MT), but he was not
> calling cq.
> 
> 73, Bob K5SM
> 
> 
> 
> John Geiger wrote:
> > I found them pretty good also. Worked KL7RA so I am
> now 2 states away from WAS on 160. Also worked C6AKQ for a
> new country!
> >
> > 73s John AA5JG
> >
> > --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >???
> >> From: Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [OKDXA] cq 160
> >> To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 8:54 AM
> >> Although I have not been able to
> >> devote much time to it, conditions on 
> >> 160 are the best I can remember them during a
> contest.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> 73, Bob K5SM
> >>
> >>
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From k5sm.bob at gmail.com  Sat Jan 30 10:28:46 2010
From: k5sm.bob at gmail.com (Robert Redmon)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:28:46 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] cq 160
In-Reply-To: <771725.95644.qm@web45104.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Thanks for the call signs. I will listen for them. I am all S&P this 
time....in fact, I am S&P almost all the time during contests any more. 
I guess I have lost the drive to compete.  Yes, I have worked AA1K on 
many occasions.

73, Bob K5SM



John Geiger wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> I need ND and ID for WAS on 160 now, plus a couple more QSLs.  Heard N4OGW on from MS last night, as well as K7BG from MT.  AA1K is usually on from DE and I have worked him on 160, but not sure if he does LOTW or not.
>
> 73s John AA5JG
>
> --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [OKDXA] cq 160
>> To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 9:18 AM
>> Speaking of WAS on 160, I have had
>> all but DE for years. Can't seem to 
>> get anyone from there to qsl using LoTW. I have never
>> collected WAS 
>> cards, but since LoTW came along, have tracked progress and
>> now have WAS 
>> on several bands and modes, but the only one I really care
>> about is 160 
>> (for reasons I cannot explain). Missed KL7RA so far this
>> time, but am 
>> approaching WAS during the contest. Worked all but (KL7)
>> MT, DE, MS, and 
>> DC, last night and this morning, but I am sure they are
>> there, just 
>> haven't found them yet. Did hear W7LR (MT), but he was not
>> calling cq.
>>
>> 73, Bob K5SM
>>
>>
>>
>> John Geiger wrote:
>>     
>>> I found them pretty good also. Worked KL7RA so I am
>>>       
>> now 2 states away from WAS on 160. Also worked C6AKQ for a
>> new country!
>>     
>>> 73s John AA5JG
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
>>>       
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>    
>>>       
>>>> From: Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [OKDXA] cq 160
>>>> To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 8:54 AM
>>>> Although I have not been able to
>>>> devote much time to it, conditions on 
>>>> 160 are the best I can remember them during a
>>>>         
>> contest.
>>     
>>>> -- 
>>>> 73, Bob K5SM
>>>>
>>>>
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From cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 30 12:05:40 2010
From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net (Kim Elmore)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:05:40 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] Ice Storm
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References: <20100129192024.JE1L3.581341.root@ispmxfep12-z02>
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At my QTH, about 7 mi E of Norman and about 1.5 mi NE of K9KK, all 
antennas (Cushcraft 40CD2, and DW3, KLM KT34A, 2m/70 cm corner 
reflector, VHF/UHF discone, F12 Sigma 80 OCF vertical dipole and K9AY 
rx loops) are still up, but looking mighty droopy. I have about 3/4" 
if ice on everything. I upgraded the boom on the 40CD2 to 0.124" wall 
thickness and a single piece, and I can see some droop in it. 
Everything still rotates. We had may an inch of sleet, topped by 
about 7 in of snow.  My shunt-fed tower still works fine on 160, even 
with 3/4" to 1" of ice on the shunt feed.

About the only thing that tunes properly is the 160 antenna. The 
dielectric loading has made all of the rest appear electrically much 
longer than they do without the ice. During the sleet I experienced 
some amazing precipitation static -- about S9. No power failures 
here, but we're pretty well immune to those because when we built the 
house, we also installed a 13 kW whole-house generator that runs on 
natural gas.

Kim N5OP


From k5sm.bob at gmail.com  Sun Jan 31 10:03:28 2010
From: k5sm.bob at gmail.com (Robert Redmon)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:03:28 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] CQ160
Message-ID: <4B659BC0.3010604@att.net>

Well, I really enjoyed this contest. Lots of activity, and the band was 
excellent. Only heard two or three OK stations (Hi, Ed...hear you still 
pounding away.). All S&P @ 600w...stopped at 350qs.(50 w/ve sections and 
29dx)..like a round number. Log shows I operated 10 hours, but much of 
that was when I just didn't log off during when off doing other things. 
John, never found RI, DE, DC, ND, or SD this time. Also missed many of 
the less common VEs. Never heard so many Tennessee stations before.

-- 
73, Bob K5SM


From aa5jg at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 31 10:12:18 2010
From: aa5jg at yahoo.com (John Geiger)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:12:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [OKDXA] CQ160
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I heard 2 RI stations on.  W1OP was loud on Friday night but wasn't hearing me.  On Sat heard another,weaker one, can't remember his call.  Heard more XEs than usual.  Band was quiet both evenings. Not sure if it was atmospheric conditions or because much of Lawton is still without power, reducing the electrical crud you get here.  Heard France, England, Chile also, but now way they were hearing me pipsqueak signal.  Still, it was fun when it lasted.

73s John AA5JG

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
> Subject: [OKDXA] CQ160
> To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 9:03 AM
> Well, I really enjoyed this contest.
> Lots of activity, and the band was 
> excellent. Only heard two or three OK stations (Hi,
> Ed...hear you still 
> pounding away.). All S&P @ 600w...stopped at 350qs.(50
> w/ve sections and 
> 29dx)..like a round number. Log shows I operated 10 hours,
> but much of 
> that was when I just didn't log off during when off doing
> other things. 
> John, never found RI, DE, DC, ND, or SD this time. Also
> missed many of 
> the less common VEs. Never heard so many Tennessee stations
> before.
> 
> -- 
> 73, Bob K5SM
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From k5sm.bob at gmail.com  Sun Jan 31 10:22:26 2010
From: k5sm.bob at gmail.com (Robert Redmon)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:22:26 -0600
Subject: [OKDXA] CQ160
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References: <323918.25223.qm@web45112.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Hi John, Sounds as though you had a good time as well. I started the 
contest with 100w, but just don't have the patience. I noticed the band 
was abnormally quiet as well. I didn't use my beverages the first night 
and really didn't feel a need to. Used them last night, though. It got 
pretty noisy here last night. Used the Flex 5000A, and the bandscope 
painted an amazing picture of 160....full of signals from 1800 all the 
way to 1890 or so. Had the 25hz filter in and just used the mouse to 
scroll slowly up and back down the band. I have had the Flex for about a 
year and a half now and am just now beginning to really appreciate the 
thing.

73, Bob K5SM



John Geiger wrote:
> I heard 2 RI stations on.  W1OP was loud on Friday night but wasn't hearing me.  On Sat heard another,weaker one, can't remember his call.  Heard more XEs than usual.  Band was quiet both evenings. Not sure if it was atmospheric conditions or because much of Lawton is still without power, reducing the electrical crud you get here.  Heard France, England, Chile also, but now way they were hearing me pipsqueak signal.  Still, it was fun when it lasted.
>
> 73s John AA5JG
>
> --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [OKDXA] CQ160
>> To: "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 9:03 AM
>> Well, I really enjoyed this contest.
>> Lots of activity, and the band was 
>> excellent. Only heard two or three OK stations (Hi,
>> Ed...hear you still 
>> pounding away.). All S&P @ 600w...stopped at 350qs.(50
>> w/ve sections and 
>> 29dx)..like a round number. Log shows I operated 10 hours,
>> but much of 
>> that was when I just didn't log off during when off doing
>> other things. 
>> John, never found RI, DE, DC, ND, or SD this time. Also
>> missed many of 
>> the less common VEs. Never heard so many Tennessee stations
>> before.
>>
>> -- 
>> 73, Bob K5SM
>>
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