[OKDXA] OKDXA Digest, Vol 62, Issue 1
Martin Maynard
martin at healingokhearts.org
Thu Jun 4 10:37:33 EDT 2009
I agree all falls under digital, however i would be in favor of just a
simple name change from RTTY to Digital, that would make it more clear of
all inclusive digital award.
Just my 2-cents
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** 3. Re: DXCC Digital Awards (K5TT)
** 4. Re: DXCC Digital Awards (John Geiger)
** 5. Re: DXCC Digital Awards (RHunt at tulsacc.edu)
** 6. Re: DXCC Digital Awards (Charette, Douglas)
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** Message: 1
** Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:24:21 -0500 (CDT)
** From: "Coy Day" <n5ok at arrl.net>
** Subject: [OKDXA] DXCC Digital Awards
** To: "OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
** Cc: k5rav at arrl.org
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** Gentlemen,
**
** As your representative to the DXAC, I'm requesting your input.
**
** The DX Advisory Committee has been tasked with the following:
** ---
**>From Programs and Services Committee meeting, 4 April, 2009
**
** Subject: RTTY and Digital DXCC Awards
**
** Participants in the DXCC program occasionally ask about the existence of
** a separate award for the digital modes other than RTTY. The RTTY DXCC
** Award was created in July, 1976 as a non-endorsable award. QSOs could
** be used dated back to 1945. In July, 1984, the RTTY DXCC became
** endorsable. In December, 1993, the RTTY award became an Honor Roll
** award. Since the advent of newer digital modes after RTTY, ARRL has
** allowed any other digital modes to feed a RTTY DXCC record.
**
** Today, with the seemingly ever-expanding use of new digital modes,
** we hear requests for a new DXCC award to recognize modes other than
** RTTY. In a recent survey of amateurs asking about their digital mode
** preferences with respect to what modes W1AW should use, it is apparent
** that RTTY and PSK31 are far and away the most popular modes. With the
** long history and high standings and still rising popularity of RTTY, it
** is not likely that we could do away with the RTTY DXCC as it stands now
** and have it replaced with a separate award.
**
** The Programs and Services Committee asks the DX Advisory Committee to
** consider possibilities for accommodating all the digital modes within
** the DXCC program. Questions that could be considered (but not limited
** to) are: The addition of a new award, either endorsable or not, for
** additional modes; the addition of mode endorsements for the RTTY award;
** renaming the RTTY award to Digital and leaving the rest unchanged; start
** dates for any new awards; impact of present and future awards on band
** planning and use; and impacts upon DXpeditions. While there will be
** administrative impact at HQ, please do not base any recommendations on
** administrative conditions.
**
** We also ask that the DX Advisory Committee consider the time required to
** respond to the PSC. Principally, this would be a choice between
** delivering its response either before the summer Board meeting in July,
** or for the Board meeting to occur in mid-January, 2010.
** ---
**
** Please send your comments on this directly to me: n5ok at arrl.net
**
** Coy, N5OK
** --
** Coy Day
** 20685 SW 29
** Union City, OK 73090
** 405-483-5632
**
**
**
**
**
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**
** Message: 2
** Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:38:28 -0500
** From: Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
** Subject: Re: [OKDXA] DXCC Digital Awards
** To: n5ok at arrl.net, Discussion of OKDXA <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
** Message-ID: <4A270974.6090408 at gmail.com>
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** Coy, I believe we have enough versions of the DXCC award as it is. It
** is my belief that the existing practice of counting all digital modes as
** RTTY is the most practical approach. I would also support changing the
** name of the RTTY award to digital, but I know that would ruffle lots of
** feathers. After all, all text based digital modes are RTTY even if they
** do not use the Baudot code and two tones.
**
** 73, Bob K5SM
**
**
**
** Coy Day wrote:
**> Gentlemen,
**>
**> As your representative to the DXAC, I'm requesting your input.
**>
**> The DX Advisory Committee has been tasked with the following:
**> ---
**> >From Programs and Services Committee meeting, 4 April, 2009
**>
**> Subject: RTTY and Digital DXCC Awards
**>
**> Participants in the DXCC program occasionally ask about the existence
**> of
**> a separate award for the digital modes other than RTTY. The RTTY DXCC
**> Award was created in July, 1976 as a non-endorsable award. QSOs could
**> be used dated back to 1945. In July, 1984, the RTTY DXCC became
**> endorsable. In December, 1993, the RTTY award became an Honor Roll
**> award. Since the advent of newer digital modes after RTTY, ARRL has
**> allowed any other digital modes to feed a RTTY DXCC record.
**>
**> Today, with the seemingly ever-expanding use of new digital modes,
**> we hear requests for a new DXCC award to recognize modes other than
**> RTTY. In a recent survey of amateurs asking about their digital mode
**> preferences with respect to what modes W1AW should use, it is apparent
**> that RTTY and PSK31 are far and away the most popular modes. With the
**> long history and high standings and still rising popularity of RTTY, it
**> is not likely that we could do away with the RTTY DXCC as it stands now
**> and have it replaced with a separate award.
**>
**> The Programs and Services Committee asks the DX Advisory Committee to
**> consider possibilities for accommodating all the digital modes within
**> the DXCC program. Questions that could be considered (but not limited
**> to) are: The addition of a new award, either endorsable or not, for
**> additional modes; the addition of mode endorsements for the RTTY award;
**> renaming the RTTY award to Digital and leaving the rest unchanged;
**> start
**> dates for any new awards; impact of present and future awards on band
**> planning and use; and impacts upon DXpeditions. While there will be
**> administrative impact at HQ, please do not base any recommendations on
**> administrative conditions.
**>
**> We also ask that the DX Advisory Committee consider the time required
**> to
**> respond to the PSC. Principally, this would be a choice between
**> delivering its response either before the summer Board meeting in July,
**> or for the Board meeting to occur in mid-January, 2010.
**> ---
**>
**> Please send your comments on this directly to me: n5ok at arrl.net
**>
**> Coy, N5OK
**>
**
**
** ------------------------------
**
** Message: 3
** Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:46:13 -0700 (PDT)
** From: K5TT <k5tt at yahoo.com>
** Subject: Re: [OKDXA] DXCC Digital Awards
** To: n5ok at arrl.net, Discussion of OKDXA <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
** Message-ID: <481149.36523.qm at web110301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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**
** Coy, not being very familiar with the different digital modes, I can not
** address awards for each mode or combinations.? My view is from a slightly
** different angle.? Awards motivate people to be more active and to be more
** involved in amateur radio, so I would suggest considering?awards that
** will?encourage more people to stay involved in the hobby.? We have seen
** many times that a new award spurs a lot of new activity.? Secondly,
** amateur radio has been a means for the development of new technology
** particularly in technical specialties that perhaps do not have a
** profitable market.? I think having awards that will drive people
** to?research,?develop and apply?new digital technology?would be good.? New
** challenges can invigorate people.
**
** If new awards can positively affect the enjoyment, growth, and development
** of amateur radio, I don't see how we can have too many of them.
**
** Jim, K5TT
**
**
**
** ----- Original Message ----
** From: Coy Day <n5ok at arrl.net>
** To: OKDXA <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
** Cc: k5rav at arrl.org
** Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 4:24:21 PM
** Subject: [OKDXA] DXCC Digital Awards
**
** Gentlemen,
**
** As your representative to the DXAC, I'm requesting your input.
**
** The DX Advisory Committee has been tasked with the following:
** ---
**>From Programs? and Services Committee meeting, 4 April, 2009
**
** Subject: RTTY and Digital? DXCC Awards
**
** Participants in the DXCC program occasionally ask about the? existence of
** a separate award for the digital modes other than RTTY.? The RTTY DXCC
** Award was created in July, 1976 as a non-endorsable? award.? QSOs could
** be used dated back to 1945.? In July, 1984, the? RTTY DXCC became
** endorsable.? In December, 1993, the RTTY award became? an Honor Roll
** award.? Since the advent of newer digital modes after? RTTY, ARRL has
** allowed any other digital modes to feed a RTTY DXCC? record.
**
** Today, with the seemingly ever-expanding use of new digital? modes,
** we hear requests for a new DXCC award to recognize modes other than
** RTTY.? In a recent survey of amateurs asking about their digital mode
** preferences with respect to what modes W1AW should use, it is apparent
** that RTTY and PSK31 are far and away the most popular modes.? With the
** long history and high standings and still rising popularity of RTTY, it
** is not likely that we could do away with the RTTY DXCC as it stands now
** and have it replaced with a separate award.
**
** The Programs and Services? Committee asks the DX Advisory Committee to
** consider possibilities for? accommodating all the digital modes within
** the DXCC program.? Questions? that could be considered (but not limited
** to) are: The addition of a new? award, either endorsable or not, for
** additional modes; the addition of mode? endorsements for the RTTY award;
** renaming the RTTY award to Digital and? leaving the rest unchanged; start
** dates for any new awards; impact of? present and future awards on band
** planning and use; and impacts upon? DXpeditions.? While there will be
** administrative impact at HQ, please? do not base any recommendations on
** administrative conditions.
**
** We also? ask that the DX Advisory Committee consider the time required to
** respond to? the PSC.? Principally, this would be a choice between
** delivering its? response either before the summer Board meeting in July,
** or for the Board? meeting to occur in mid-January, 2010.
** ---
**
** Please send your comments on this directly to me:? n5ok at arrl.net
**
** Coy, N5OK
** --
** Coy Day
** 20685 SW 29
** Union City, OK 73090
** 405-483-5632
**
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** Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:53:26 -0700 (PDT)
** From: John Geiger <aa5jg at yahoo.com>
** Subject: Re: [OKDXA] DXCC Digital Awards
** To: Discussion of OKDXA <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
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**
** Coy,
**
** I agree with Bob. A digital mode is a digital mode is a digital mode.
** RTTY is a digital mode, as is PSK31, Hellschriber, Olivia, MT63, MFSK16,
** etc. If we make a special digital mode DXCC non-inclusive of RTTY, then
** pretty soon people will want one for PSK only, and so on.
**
** 73s John AA5JG
**
** --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
**
**> From: Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
**> Subject: Re: [OKDXA] DXCC Digital Awards
**> To: n5ok at arrl.net, "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
**> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 6:38 PM
**> Coy,? I believe we have enough
**> versions of the DXCC award as it is. It
**> is my belief that the existing practice of counting all
**> digital modes as
**> RTTY is the most practical approach. I would also support
**> changing the
**> name of the RTTY award to digital, but I know that would
**> ruffle lots of
**> feathers. After all, all text based digital modes are RTTY
**> even if they
**> do not use the Baudot code and two tones.
**>
**> 73, Bob K5SM
**>
**>
**>
**> Coy Day wrote:
**> > Gentlemen,
**> >
**> > As your representative to the DXAC, I'm requesting
**> your input.
**> >
**> > The DX Advisory Committee has been tasked with the
**> following:
**> > ---
**> > >From Programs? and Services Committee
**> meeting, 4 April, 2009
**> >
**> > Subject: RTTY and Digital? DXCC Awards
**> >
**> > Participants in the DXCC program occasionally ask
**> about the? existence of
**> > a separate award for the digital modes other than
**> RTTY.? The RTTY DXCC
**> > Award was created in July, 1976 as a
**> non-endorsable? award.? QSOs could
**> > be used dated back to 1945.? In July, 1984,
**> the? RTTY DXCC became
**> > endorsable.? In December, 1993, the RTTY award
**> became? an Honor Roll
**> > award.? Since the advent of newer digital modes
**> after? RTTY, ARRL has
**> > allowed any other digital modes to feed a RTTY
**> DXCC? record.
**> >
**> > Today, with the seemingly ever-expanding use of new
**> digital? modes,
**> > we hear requests for a new DXCC award to recognize
**> modes other than
**> > RTTY.? In a recent survey of amateurs asking
**> about their digital mode
**> > preferences with respect to what modes W1AW should
**> use, it is apparent
**> > that RTTY and PSK31 are far and away the most popular
**> modes.? With the
**> > long history and high standings and still rising
**> popularity of RTTY, it
**> > is not likely that we could do away with the RTTY DXCC
**> as it stands now
**> > and have it replaced with a separate award.
**> >
**> > The Programs and Services? Committee asks the DX
**> Advisory Committee to
**> > consider possibilities for? accommodating all the
**> digital modes within
**> > the DXCC program.? Questions? that could be
**> considered (but not limited
**> > to) are: The addition of a new? award, either
**> endorsable or not, for
**> > additional modes; the addition of mode?
**> endorsements for the RTTY award;
**> > renaming the RTTY award to Digital and? leaving
**> the rest unchanged; start
**> > dates for any new awards; impact of? present and
**> future awards on band
**> > planning and use; and impacts upon?
**> DXpeditions.? While there will be
**> > administrative impact at HQ, please? do not base
**> any recommendations on
**> > administrative conditions.
**> >
**> > We also? ask that the DX Advisory Committee
**> consider the time required to
**> > respond to? the PSC.? Principally, this
**> would be a choice between
**> > delivering its? response either before the summer
**> Board meeting in July,
**> > or for the Board? meeting to occur in
**> mid-January, 2010.
**> > ---
**> >
**> > Please send your comments on this directly to
**> me:? n5ok at arrl.net
**> >
**> > Coy, N5OK
**> >???
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** Message: 5
** Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:25:09 -0500
** From: RHunt at tulsacc.edu
** Subject: Re: [OKDXA] DXCC Digital Awards
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** Agrees with Bob K5SM. AND we can expect more digital modes to come. Where
** does it end ???
** Sorry to say Laura and I won't make HamCom this year. My 50th HS reunion
** is this weekend here
** in Tulsa. Hope to see some messages about the happenings in Plano. Go get
** 'em on the pileup
** copying contest Jerry. Ya'll have fun and post some info on the
** happenings.. This will be the first
** HamCom I/we have missed in a decade. See ya next year.
**
** 73, Ross K5RH
**
**
**
**
**
** Robert Redmon <k5sm.bob at gmail.com>
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**
**
**
**
**
**
** Coy, I believe we have enough versions of the DXCC award as it is. It
** is my belief that the existing practice of counting all digital modes as
** RTTY is the most practical approach. I would also support changing the
** name of the RTTY award to digital, but I know that would ruffle lots of
** feathers. After all, all text based digital modes are RTTY even if they
** do not use the Baudot code and two tones.
**
** 73, Bob K5SM
**
**
**
** Coy Day wrote:
**> Gentlemen,
**>
**> As your representative to the DXAC, I'm requesting your input.
**>
**> The DX Advisory Committee has been tasked with the following:
**> ---
**> >From Programs and Services Committee meeting, 4 April, 2009
**>
**> Subject: RTTY and Digital DXCC Awards
**>
**> Participants in the DXCC program occasionally ask about the existence
** of
**> a separate award for the digital modes other than RTTY. The RTTY DXCC
**> Award was created in July, 1976 as a non-endorsable award. QSOs could
**> be used dated back to 1945. In July, 1984, the RTTY DXCC became
**> endorsable. In December, 1993, the RTTY award became an Honor Roll
**> award. Since the advent of newer digital modes after RTTY, ARRL has
**> allowed any other digital modes to feed a RTTY DXCC record.
**>
**> Today, with the seemingly ever-expanding use of new digital modes,
**> we hear requests for a new DXCC award to recognize modes other than
**> RTTY. In a recent survey of amateurs asking about their digital mode
**> preferences with respect to what modes W1AW should use, it is apparent
**> that RTTY and PSK31 are far and away the most popular modes. With the
**> long history and high standings and still rising popularity of RTTY, it
**> is not likely that we could do away with the RTTY DXCC as it stands now
**> and have it replaced with a separate award.
**>
**> The Programs and Services Committee asks the DX Advisory Committee to
**> consider possibilities for accommodating all the digital modes within
**> the DXCC program. Questions that could be considered (but not limited
**> to) are: The addition of a new award, either endorsable or not, for
**> additional modes; the addition of mode endorsements for the RTTY award;
**> renaming the RTTY award to Digital and leaving the rest unchanged;
** start
**> dates for any new awards; impact of present and future awards on band
**> planning and use; and impacts upon DXpeditions. While there will be
**> administrative impact at HQ, please do not base any recommendations on
**> administrative conditions.
**>
**> We also ask that the DX Advisory Committee consider the time required
** to
**> respond to the PSC. Principally, this would be a choice between
**> delivering its response either before the summer Board meeting in July,
**> or for the Board meeting to occur in mid-January, 2010.
**> ---
**>
**> Please send your comments on this directly to me: n5ok at arrl.net
**>
**> Coy, N5OK
**>
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** Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:31:41 -0500
** From: "Charette, Douglas" <ChareDo at tulsaschools.org>
** Subject: Re: [OKDXA] DXCC Digital Awards
** To: <n5ok at arrl.net>, "Discussion of OKDXA" <okdxa at mailman.qth.net>
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** I'd support mode endorsements to the basic RTTY award, but not separate
** awards for other digital modes.
**
** 73 Doug W5GA
**
** -----Original Message-----
** From: okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net
** [mailto:okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Coy Day
** Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 4:24 PM
** To: OKDXA
** Cc: k5rav at arrl.org
** Subject: [OKDXA] DXCC Digital Awards
**
** Gentlemen,
**
** As your representative to the DXAC, I'm requesting your input.
**
** The DX Advisory Committee has been tasked with the following:
** ---
**>From Programs and Services Committee meeting, 4 April, 2009
**
** Subject: RTTY and Digital DXCC Awards
**
** Participants in the DXCC program occasionally ask about the existence
** of
** a separate award for the digital modes other than RTTY. The RTTY DXCC
** Award was created in July, 1976 as a non-endorsable award. QSOs could
** be used dated back to 1945. In July, 1984, the RTTY DXCC became
** endorsable. In December, 1993, the RTTY award became an Honor Roll
** award. Since the advent of newer digital modes after RTTY, ARRL has
** allowed any other digital modes to feed a RTTY DXCC record.
**
** Today, with the seemingly ever-expanding use of new digital modes,
** we hear requests for a new DXCC award to recognize modes other than
** RTTY. In a recent survey of amateurs asking about their digital mode
** preferences with respect to what modes W1AW should use, it is apparent
** that RTTY and PSK31 are far and away the most popular modes. With the
** long history and high standings and still rising popularity of RTTY, it
** is not likely that we could do away with the RTTY DXCC as it stands now
** and have it replaced with a separate award.
**
** The Programs and Services Committee asks the DX Advisory Committee to
** consider possibilities for accommodating all the digital modes within
** the DXCC program. Questions that could be considered (but not limited
** to) are: The addition of a new award, either endorsable or not, for
** additional modes; the addition of mode endorsements for the RTTY award;
** renaming the RTTY award to Digital and leaving the rest unchanged;
** start
** dates for any new awards; impact of present and future awards on band
** planning and use; and impacts upon DXpeditions. While there will be
** administrative impact at HQ, please do not base any recommendations on
** administrative conditions.
**
** We also ask that the DX Advisory Committee consider the time required
** to
** respond to the PSC. Principally, this would be a choice between
** delivering its response either before the summer Board meeting in July,
** or for the Board meeting to occur in mid-January, 2010.
** ---
**
** Please send your comments on this directly to me: n5ok at arrl.net
**
** Coy, N5OK
** --
** Coy Day
** 20685 SW 29
** Union City, OK 73090
** 405-483-5632
**
**
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