[OKDXA] FW: Incessant QRM

Tue Jan 15 08:04:06 EST 2008

Well said.  That is only a partial list of offenders. 
Listing repeat offenders in a public forum might help.
 Direct communications off the air might help. I think
anyone working DX has noticed the increase in the
constant calling.  The DX op can sometimes help
control the situation by the manner in which he
responds, i.e., not working the offender when he
continues to call. To keep my cool, I try to look at
it as part of the environment I have to overcome - not
easy to do that.  

Have fun,

Jim
--- Doug <w5ga at arrl.net> wrote:

> This comes from my brother, K6XT.  He makes some
> cogent points to ponder,
> and I've noticed the same problems.
> 
> 73, Doug W5GA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm mad. I'm going to be unpopular. Who cares, y'all
> say??
> 
> This relates to contesting in the sense that a
> pileup is contesting, 
> altho it's really DXing.
> 
> Last night I had to work J5C 3 times to think I had
> one QSO. Not because 
> I couldn't hear him. I just happened to choose a
> great freq where he 
> could hear my call. So could the lids. All the lids
> and kids were 
> calling on my freq  while I tried to complete the
> QSO. And I never did 
> get a firm confirmation of contact, so had to work
> him again today.
> 
> Now I'm on a tear. Listening on 80 to J5C tonight,
> specifically for 
> butthead QRMers, was a lesson. N9OY. W6QUV. W7KNT.
> W0GG. N0VD. NI6T. A 
> host of others, these lids had big sigs easily
> scanned for, not a one 
> even remotely like the call J5C was replying to. I
> don't know ya, hope I 
> never need to. Likely this will cost me
> acquaintances. Like I said, I'm mad.
> 
> There were many posts recently about
> semi-intentional QRM, the recently 
> accelerating trend to incessantly call when it is
> clear the DX is trying 
> to complete a QSO with an entirely unrelated
> callsign, and exactly zero 
> beat with the station the DX is trying to
> work....leaving no doubt the 
> lid can actually hear the DX, so that the world
> knows you're a lid.
> 
> Unacceptable conduct.
> 
> I'm not perfect. But. I don't do it intentionally,
> like I hear these 
> dopes doing. If I'm out of line on the air, fine.
> Chastise me severely, 
> like what happened  on J5C on 160 when I started
> calling CQ naqp on 29.6 
> with them on 30.0. It happens (no packet allowed on
> naqp so I didn't 
> know, and nil in my rx). The intentional crap has to
> stop somewhere. If 
> more of us were to make significant note of it,
> maybe we could stop some 
> of it.
> 
> One line of thought is work em thru the lids, make
> the point that way. 
> OK, I do that too when I can with my modestly
> effective setup. That 
> won't get folks to stop it.
> 
> Like CBers on 10. If nobody does anything nothing
> will happen. If you 
> can't hear DON'T CALL. If he didn't come back to
> something that at least 
> minimally resembles your callsign, DON'T CALL.
> Whoever 'you' is, me 
> included.
> 
> Just my insignificant opinion.
> 
> 73 Art
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> I've had a few responses from incessant QRMers that
> they do it because 
> they think the DX will work them faster.
> 
> This is absolutely not true. Listen to any good size
> pileup. What 
> happens is the DX has to repeatedly say things like
> "QRX QRX QRX. Only 
> the K6X". And so on. The DX could be exchanging
> reports but instead must 
>   first get the incessant QRM stopped.
> 
> The fact is, over all time, the3 rate of working DX
> decreases as a 
> result of incessant calling. Everyone worldwide is
> slowed because the 
> QRMers choose to be boorish DX hogs. What a great
> face to put on for all 
> the world to hear.
> 
> Here's how it works. Every pileup has a hierarchy.
> Each of us has a 
> position on any given frequency based on signal
> strength, operating 
> skills, timing etc. If not at the top of that pile,
> you won't get worked 
> until the DX peels off the layers above you like an
> onion. When the DX 
> does, you'll get worked. Until then, if you're
> calling out of turn, 
> you're just intentional QRM. Your only effectivity
> is to increase the 
> background noise, which is equivalent to reducing
> the signal to noise 
> ratio of the staion the DX wants to work.
> 
> There is only one shortcut. That is to accurately
> place your transmitter 
> on the frequency the DX will visit next, call at
> just the right time, 
> and be the only one or the loudest one on that freq.
> That, my incessant 
> caller friends, is a learned skill. No amount of
> dumping your call on 
> top of the station the DX is currently trying to
> work will train you for 
> it. And until you do learn it, welcome to the
> bleachers. You'll be one 
> of the ops with that crestfallen look who allows as
> how "I called and 
> called and called, but the pileup was just too big."
> 
> "Well, Mr. Motormouth", you say, "fine. You've been
> DXing for 50 years. 
> How did you learn it?"
> 
> It has very little to do with how big the station
> is, although that 
> certainly helps in how fast things get done. For
> example I worked VU7RG 
> on 3 bands with 100W and a wire, about as remote
> from me as DX can get. 
> They were S-nothing the whole time. No big station
> here. Here it comes, 
> oh so painful. There are two elements to learning
> it. Each has 3 parts. 
> Ready? Turn  the page: Practice, practice, practice.
> Listen, listen, listen.
> 
> More information from one of our senior DXperts can
> be found here. Pay 
> special attention to paragraph two and the sentence
> following.
> 
> http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2002/03/01/3/
> 
> 73 Good DX
> Art
> 
> 
> 
> 
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