[OKDXA] INTERESTING MORNING

[AE5MH]

"Now of course we hear that we are supposed to "elmer"
them, but even that is becoming impossible.  The first
time you point out to them that they are doing
something wrong you hear about how your attitude is
driving new hams away, etc."

I understand John, it's frustrating.  As it has been said recently "I feel
your pain"

Oh I think they are listening.  They may not be giving you the benefit of
knowing it.
Just like teenage kids, you have to tell them whether they let you know they
are listening of not.
Being an Elmer doesn't necessarily mean that there are group hugs involved!


Being an Elmer means being the A-1 operator that Elmers are supposed to be..
Setting the bar, and Being involved.  
If the person is trying to improve his or her practices, they will recognize
and adopt your habits.
If they don't, at least you've set the bar.. Don't lower it.  They are
watching.

I know all too many people that sit on their laurels in QCWA that complain
about repeaters on the repeater!, or how about those that say that code is
dead but never helped to hold a CW class.. or say that licenses are rubber
stamped and yet have never been a VE.

Nuff Said
Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:okdxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of John Geiger
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 8:34 PM
To: Discussion of OKDXA
Subject: Re: [OKDXA] INTERESTING MORNING

I don't think it took Nostradomous, Edgar Cayce, and
Miss Cleo to see this coming.  

When the ARRL and CQ are constantly screaming that we
need a trillion new hams on HF or we will loose all of
our bands (funny how no one has actually tried to take
an HF band from us, and instead we keep getting new
ones, including the 136khz band at the latest WRC),
and the licensing standards get reduced to the point
that someone can go from no license to having an extra
with a weekend of study, it only figures that you will
end up with loads of people on the air with absolutely
no clue as to what they are doing.

Now of course we hear that we are supposed to "elmer"
them, but even that is becoming impossible.  The first
time you point out to them that they are doing
something wrong you hear about how your attitude is
driving new hams away, etc.

I guess we only have ourselves to blame for this mess
since we didn't fight harder to preserve the standards
we had.

73s John AA5JG
 
--- Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Maybe I should simply invoke a saying I ascribe to
> my father-in-law 
> (who is not a ham):
> 
> "Ignorance is treatable, but stupid is incurable."
> 
> Kim Elmore, N5OP
> 
> At 07:21 PM 2/10/2008, you wrote:
> >Mark,
> >
> >I agree with Kim 100%!  I don't see how those guys
> ever work anyone.  You
> >can also see the frustration in the DXers operation
> by returning to some
> >guy 3 or 4 times without him ever coming back
> because he is still calling.
> >  Phooey!
> >
> >However, the OO program still exists and does a
> very fine job.  They are
> >there to make sure we are following FCC rules. 
> They are not there to
> >bring sanity to this madness.  ;-)
> >
> >Coy
> >--
> >Coy Day, N5OK
> >20685 SW 29
> >Union City, OK 73090
> >405-483-5632
> 
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