They were on 3507 listening up 3-4 KHz most of the evening starting before sunset. I could hear them faintly a few times but never loud enough to work. The East Coast was having a picnic. :-( I need them on 160 and 80. Keeping my fingers crossed. Coy -- Coy Day, N5OK 20685 SW 29 Union City, OK 73090 405-483-5632