Just snagged them on 40m with good signal. It came up out of ESP. I found a station he was working, zeroed him and bang first call. He is on 7025.2 listening 027.3. Good luck. I'm off to CT in the morning so maybe 17 will be good when I return Sunday evening. 73, Coy -- Coy Day, N5OK 20685 SW 29 Union City, OK 73090 405-483-5632