A thought just hit me. It seems that Bert and Jim are both locked out of the OKDXA reflector because QTH.NET is on the Cox blacklist. I think it would be nice if we CCed them when we post to the reflector until they get back on. Are there others that are on cox.net that we know about? Coy -- Coy Day, N5OK 20685 SW 29 Union City, OK 73090 405-483-5632