[OKDXA] DX, on 160

Fri, 22 Nov 2002 05:16:14 -0600

Hi ya Jay,

Those real long "Bobbie Pins" work well for that task.

Bob k5sit 73 es gud dx

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Bromley" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 08:46 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [OKDXA] DX, on 160

> Geezz you would think I could spell staple or stapling?
>
> Hihi,
>
> 73 de jay..
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Bromley" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [OKDXA] DX, on 160
>
>
> > Yes I have been listening to the activity on 160m.  Very good conditions
> > indeed!
> >
> > One thing I have not tried, but heard that works very well is to lay the
> > radials flat and pin them with homemade horseshoe hooks made of 12 gauge
> > solid wire.  It is like stampling the wire to the ground.  When spring
> time
> > comes the grass will grow over and push the wire just under the soil.
It
> > may save some time relaying radial wire every year.  Note I do NOT
> practice
> > what I preach!!  :-)
> >
> > Also a good friend gave me some free galvanize fence wire a long time
ago.
> > I was poor, young, and going to school.  I thought this was a land fall
> and
> > worked laying out many feet of the free wire.
> >
> > Well it worked for a few weeks till the corrosion set in.  So live and
> > learn!  The galvanize wire also made a great diode detector for AM
> broadcast
> > radio.  This was not good for the receiver and made the transmitter
sound
> > more like spark one complete with FB RFI to the neighborhood!  20 years
> ago
> > we didn't have Home Depot or Lowes that has 500 foot roll of 12 gauge
> copper
> > wire for under $15.
> >
> > Now if I care to climb the tower in the dark to install the shut fed so
I
> > can hear Clif!
> >
> > Best Regards!
> >
> > 73 de w5jay..
> >
> > > Good stuff Jay.  I use electric fence wire from Home Depot for
radials.
> > At the end of the season I take it up and throw it away because you
cannot
> > keep it straight, ha.
> > >
> > > 160m is busy tonite with contest stations getting ready for the
weekend.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > From: "Jay Bromley" <[email protected]>
> > > > Date: 2002/11/19 Tue PM 01:27:06 EST
> > > > To: "Clifton Sikes" <[email protected]>,
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [OKDXA] DX, on 160
> > > >
> > > > Hi Clif and gang again,
> > > >
> > > > One thing I forgot to comment on is the radials.  More smaller ones
> are
> > > > better than a few long ones.  Elevated ones are better than those on
> the
> > > > ground.  Radials on top of the soil  have less loss than ones
buried.
> > Try
> > > > to put out 40-70 radials and cut them to 75ft.  If you have the room
> and
> > > > wire then by all means make then a 1/4 wave long which is around 120
> > feet.
> > > > The ideas is to have very low loss at the bottom of the antenna were
> the
> > > > current is.  So more is better here, not just one long one!
Elevated
> > feeds
> > > > can get by with 2 to 4 radials if the ground losses are low and it
> also
> > > > depends on the height of the ground plane antenna
> > > >
> > > > Also on your inverted L, if you are using a 1/4 you might want to
try
> a
> > 3/8
> > > > wave.  It will move the current up a little and the losses at the
base
> > are
> > > > not as great.  You match it with a simple series capacitor at the
> base.
> > You
> > > > could go to a 1/2, but most folks don't have the support to make the
> > center
> > > > vertical,  so the 3/8 is a good compromise!  If I remember a 3/8 on
> 160m
> > is
> > > > 177 to 180 feet long.  Matching a 1/2 on 160m is no fun with high
> power
> > > > because you are voltage feeding!
> > > >
> > > > If anyone needs the exact measurements of the radials, capacitor, or
> any
> > of
> > > > the above I can e-mail them later.
> > > >
> > > > Have fun and 73 de jay..
> > > >
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