http://www.advancement.cnet.navy.mil/products/web-pdf/tramans/bookchunks/140 92_ch2.pdf I can read this stuff for hours on end... And all I'd need to "make it real" is a budget like the DoD, a few acres out near the Red Fork, and the time to do it. Damn shame I'm scoring 0 for 3 on this deal... - AC5UP