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Subject: Re: [OFARC] 1:1 unun question?
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:32:45 -0600
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Hey Dom,
Good evening.  In my understanding of this, the unun is an unbalanced to =
unbalanced transformer which uses an inductor and as such, together with =
stray capacitance, will act as a filter of specific frequency ranges. =20=


So it is possible that the suppressed QRM frequencies that you mentioned =
, populated a particular frequency range and that range was =E2=80=9Ccutof=
f&quot; by the unun.  In other words, it=E2=80=99s entirely possible that the =
filtering action inherent in the unun was indeed cutting off your QRM.

It would be interesting to delve into this idea, and quantify it, by =
using a spectrum analyzer such as the TinySA Spectrum Analyzer =
&lt;https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Karagas-0-1MHZ-350MHZ-240MHZ-960MHZ-Frequ=
ency/dp/B08C8RNX17/ref=3Dasc_df_B08C8RNX17?tag=3Dbngsmtphsnus-20&amp;linkCode=3D=
df0&amp;hvadid=3D80127030278136&amp;hvnetw=3Ds&amp;hvqmt=3De&amp;hvbmt=3Dbe&amp;hvdev=3Dc&amp;hvlo=
cint=3D&amp;hvlocphy=3D&amp;hvtargid=3Dpla-4583726556022657&amp;psc=3D1&gt;.  One could =
then use it for an &quot;A/B test&quot; with and without the 1:1 unun.=20

Just my 2 cents.

Regards &amp; 73,
Stephen (W2WF)


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&gt; On Dec 1, 2022, at 8:22 PM, Dominic Mazoch &lt;domemt@juno.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;=20
&gt; I just put a 1:1 unun in my coax.  Seems it cuts out some QRM.  Is =
there something I am not hearing?
&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; Dominic Mazoch
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&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;meta http-equiv=3D&quot;content-type&quot; content=3D&quot;text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8&quot;&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body style=3D&quot;overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;&quot;&gt;Hey =
Dom,&lt;div&gt;Good evening. &amp;nbsp;In my understanding of this, the unun is an =
unbalanced to unbalanced transformer which uses an inductor and as such, =
together with stray capacitance, will act as a filter of specific =
frequency ranges. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So it is possible that =
the suppressed QRM frequencies that you mentioned , populated a =
particular frequency range and that range was =E2=80=9Ccutoff&quot; by the =
unun. &amp;nbsp;In other words, it=E2=80=99s entirely possible that the =
filtering action inherent in the unun was indeed cutting off your =
QRM.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It would be interesting to delve into this =
idea, and quantify it, by using a spectrum analyzer such as the &lt;a =
href=3D&quot;https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Karagas-0-1MHZ-350MHZ-240MHZ-960MH=
Z-Frequency/dp/B08C8RNX17/ref=3Dasc_df_B08C8RNX17?tag=3Dbngsmtphsnus-20&amp;am=
p;linkCode=3Ddf0&amp;amp;hvadid=3D80127030278136&amp;amp;hvnetw=3Ds&amp;amp;hvqmt=3De&amp;=
amp;hvbmt=3Dbe&amp;amp;hvdev=3Dc&amp;amp;hvlocint=3D&amp;amp;hvlocphy=3D&amp;amp;hvtargid=3D=
pla-4583726556022657&amp;amp;psc=3D1&quot;&gt;TinySA Spectrum Analyzer&lt;/a&gt;. =
&amp;nbsp;One could then use it for an &quot;A/B test&quot; with &lt;u&gt;and&lt;/u&gt; without =
the 1:1 unun.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Just my 2 =
cents.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Regards &amp;amp; 73,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Stephen =
(W2WF)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockqu=
ote type=3D&quot;cite&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On Dec 1, 2022, at 8:22 PM, Dominic Mazoch =
&amp;lt;domemt@juno.com&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br =
class=3D&quot;Apple-interchange-newline&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I just put a 1:1 unun in =
my coax. &amp;nbsp;Seems it cuts out some QRM. &amp;nbsp;Is there something I am =
not hearing?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dominic =
Mazoch&lt;br&gt;______________________________________________________________&lt;b=
r&gt;OFARC mailing list&lt;br&gt;Home: =
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ofarc&lt;br&gt;Help: =
http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm&lt;br&gt;Post: =
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http://www.qsl.net&lt;br&gt;Please help support this email list: =
http://www.qsl.net/donate.html&lt;br&gt;Message delivered to =
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