[OFARC] Ham radios for Troop 1377

Ralph ke5hdf at sbcglobal.net
Sun Feb 12 00:24:33 EST 2017


Greetings Gentlemen,

I have been asked to help with relocation of an antenna and tower for a 
scout troop.

Troop 1377 is launching an effort for amateur radio.

They are giving license classes and plan to participate in a state wide 
emergency exercise in June.

The troop has been given a tower and needs to move it to their troop 
location.

Can you suggest some people to help drop and move the tower?

It will need a large trailer or flatbed truck for transport.  It will 
not fit on a pickup truck.


Mr. Snyder is also interested in finding out more about the state wide 
drill.

Perhaps one of your members can assist ???


I would appreciate any help you can provide.

Feel free to contact Mr. Snyder directly at patricksnyder1 at yahoo.com  
(please CC me)


73

Ralph KE5HDF



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Subject: 	Re: Fw: Ham radios for 1377
Date: 	Sun, 12 Feb 2017 02:15:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: 	patrick snyder <patricksnyder1 at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: 	patrick snyder <patricksnyder1 at yahoo.com>
To: 	Ke5hdf Ralph <ke5hdf at sbcglobal.net>
CC: 	Lester L. Mignerey <oldetown at me.com>



The batteries are from ATT.  Exactly what kind and how many I don't know 
yet,
but I will let you know as soon as I do.

The Tower is presently installed at a residence in Huffman.  It is a 
90-foot Tower
that is in three sections nestled inside of each other and are raised 
mechanically
by cables.  Weighs about 2500-3000 pounds.  When compressed is about 28
feet tall.  It is on a swivel base which allows it to be lowered to the 
ground.  The
antenna array on top is about 20 feet by 25 feet and will need to be removed
before the tower can be lowered.  I have the technical manuals from the
manufacturer and the Tower requires a 7-foot deep concrete base for mounting
but can be detached for removal.  Lonestar has a scissor lift which may 
be usable
to remove the antenna array.  They also have an 18-foot trailer but it 
think
something longer is going to be needed.  They also have a forklift 
available.  Their
18-foot trailer can be used to transport the scissor lift and forklift 
to the site but
I think 18 feet is too small to transport the 28-foot tower.  Lonestar 
has a student
who is a contractor from the Huffman area who will handle the 
extraction.  We would
appreciate the experience of the Sugarland tower people.


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*From:* Ke5hdf Ralph <ke5hdf at sbcglobal.net>
*To:* patrick snyder <patricksnyder1 at yahoo.com>
*Cc:* Lester L. Mignerey <oldetown at me.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 11, 2017 7:37 PM
*Subject:* Re: Fw: Ham radios for 1377

Where are the batteries and towers?
How many sections to the tower?

As I recall, the BVARC club in Sugarland has some great tower people.

If we can find a 3/4 ton pickup with full size  bed we can carry tower 
sections in turn or perhaps someone has a trailer.

A 1/2 ton truck can carry auxiliary tower pieces or batteries.

Regarding batteries, commercial UPS systems use large capacity batteries 
and change the out when their capacity drops to 70-80%.  That leaves 
plenty for a radio backup.

Regards,
Ralph Phillips


On Feb 11, 2017 6:36 PM, patrick snyder <patricksnyder1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

    FYI,  any input on transportation issues would be appreciated.



    ----- Forwarded Message -----
    *From:* patrick snyder <patricksnyder1 at yahoo.com>
    *To:* Therivel <therivel at earthlink.net>; "fctrujillo at hotmail.com"
    <fctrujillo at hotmail.com>
    *Cc:* Bill Young <b-young1 at comcast.net>
    *Sent:* Thursday, February 9, 2017 11:11 PM
    *Subject:* Re: Ham radios for 1377

    You must have been reading my mind.  Much has developed in a very
    short time.
    As a matter of fact, I am in the process of doing an update to send
    to all parties.
    Tonight was our monthly District Leaders Meeting where I had to
    bring them up to
    date within the committee before disseminating this information to
    others.

    Lonestar Community College has just allocated $5,000 to fund the
    relocation of
    the 90 foot Davis Tower.  I was out there this afternoon taking
    detailed photos
    of the Tower and antenna as well as the access areas for a truck,
    trailer, and scissor
    lift necessary to remove the antenna (25 feet) before removing and
    relocating the
    Tower.

    Troop 1377 has scheduled a training class for ham radio licensing
    specifically
    for this donation of Bill Young's cousin's radios.  We will be
    opening the class
    to interested Scouts from other Troops within the District as well.
      The class will
    also be open to interested Scout Leaders.

    I have been networking with the Community Response Task Force tasked
    with
    preparing the 59 corridor from Beltway 8 to Cleveland for hurricane
    preparedness.

    In networking with the Kingwood Medical Center, it has come to light
    that in June
    of this year, they will be participating in a state wide mass
    casualty training exercise.
    Although the exact nature of the exercise has not been finalized, it
    is expected to be
    a simulation of a hurricane.  Since we were planning our own mass
    casualty exercise,
    I am in discussions with them to have the Flaming Arrow District act
    in a supporting
    role to enhance their exercise from one that is usually a table top
    exercise into one that
    is a real-world training opportunity for all stake holders.  This
    will allow us to integrate
    our capabilities into the established first response networks.  This
    will also integrate
    the ham community as a communication tool to deliver simulated
    casualties to
    medical sites designated by the police, fire department, state and
    local jurisdictions.
    Many of our current Scout leadership are already Cert trained.  This
    will also give our
    Scouting organizations some real world experience in delivering mass
    casualty services.

    We will also be exploring employment opportunities for summer jobs
    and internships
    for our Eagle Scouts.

    An additional issue is that we may have a corporate supporter who
    has a supply of
    batteries which they are willing to donate.  No details yet, but
    there may be opportunities
    for the ham community to acquire some of these batteries for battery
    banks during
    those times when the power may be out so they can sustain operations.

    I will be coming out to pick up the donated radios and meet and
    greet with the Scout
    leaders in his area.  As soon as I know the details about the
    batteries, I will check to see
    if he wants any and I can bring them with me.  Since this event in
    June is state wide,
    the Scouts in their area may want to participate.

    When you start talking about a mass casualty event that fills every
    hospital bed in Texas,
    it gets real serious real quick.

    The Good News is that the expected La Nina has fizzled and only
    lasted 4 months.  Right
    now we are in a neutral zone designation meaning we've gotten lucky.
      The expectation
    for this next season is now "little activity".  This gives us more
    time to get our network
    up and running and get more of our people trained for a hurricane event.

    I will be following up with everyone in more detail.  I will be
    forwarding some of the photos
    and would like to get feedback from everyone with experience in
    these technical issues.
    The Tower is in incredibly good condition.  There are also several
    other smaller towers
    looking for a home.  I think it is very reasonable to expect that we
    can set up a viable and
    functional emergency radio network to serve our community as a
    response asset during
    such an imminent disaster.  As well as developing into a support
    resource for evacuation
    and recovery efforts.

    Thank you all for your assistance.  More to follow.

          Patrick Snyder
          Hurrican Coordinator
          Flaming Arrow District
          281-216-3406
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    *From:* Therivel <therivel at earthlink.net>
    *To:* fctrujillo at hotmail.com
    *Cc:* 'patrick snyder' <patricksnyder1 at yahoo.com>; Bill Young
    <b-young1 at comcast.net>
    *Sent:* Thursday, February 9, 2017 9:58 PM
    *Subject:* Ham radios for 1377

    Hi Felix,
    I had a call today from Bill Young, whose cousin is donating 2
    radios to the troop (as I understand). They haven’t heard from you
    or anybody else, when and how the radios are going to be picked up.
    I see that the troop is planning a ham radio training in September
    and these radios would come in mighty handy, I guess.
    Were you the one who was in contact for this, and could you do
    something about it, please?
    I am copying Patrick Snyder and Bill Young to keep everybody informed.
    Thanks, Felix.
    Brigitte
    Brigitte Therivel
    3415 Sandy Forks Drive
    Kingwood, TX 77339
    281-358-9697 (H)
    281-507-5946 (cell)







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