From bcarling at cfl.rr.com Mon Nov 2 16:29:45 2015 From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling AF4K) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 16:29:45 -0500 Subject: [Novice-Rigs] FS: PM23 Hallicrafters Speaker Message-ID: <5637D5C9.4821.178CCE0@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> FOR SALE: Hallicrafters PM23 Speaker. I have the Model PM 23 matching speaker for the SX28 and others for sale here. This one matches some other Hallicrafters receivers too. It is essentially sound. The cabinet needs painting. Works fine. Will look great. It will be worth the effort. If nobody wants it I will repaint it myself and sell it for way mor eon eBay! Available for $65.00 plus shipping. Pictures available on request. 73 - Bry AF4K From bcarling at cfl.rr.com Thu Nov 5 07:58:55 2015 From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling AF4K) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 07:58:55 -0500 Subject: [Novice-Rigs] Reduced: Weller Soldering Station MP-101 Message-ID: <563B528F.18533.5006DFA@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> Reduced: Weller Soldering Station MP-101 Comes with the MP106 pencil, and works perfectly. This is a TOP QUALITY USA made product in excellent condition. 120V AC operation, fully tested and clean condition. Picture here: (additional photos on request) http://af4k.com/imag/ham/weller.jpg Available for $39.00 plus shipping. 73 - Brian Carling, AF4K http://af4k.com/imag/ham/weller.jpg 73 de AF4K, Bry From bcarling at cfl.rr.com Fri Nov 13 09:21:58 2015 From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling AF4K) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:21:58 -0500 Subject: [Novice-Rigs] Multi Elmac PMR6A In-Reply-To: <710800019.3043999.1447187751258.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <56425280.14441.20580BC5@bcarling.cfl.rr.com>, <710800019.3043999.1447187751258.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5645F206.21377.2E7F2E7A@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> Great John. I plan to try out the PMR-6A this month and get it ready for th enext Novice Rig Roundup! 73 - Bry On 10 Nov 2015 at 20:35, John Saxon johnbsaxon at yahoo.c wrote: > > ? > I probably have told you but I have a PRM-8A receiver, factory power supply & AF-68A transmitter.? Really a fun setup.? I > especially like the transmitter, very nice package.? I am currently aligning the transmitter.? Have done a little work on the > receiver.? It will receive, but a bit more work is needed.? The three make a very nice station. > Looking forward to the NRR...thanks again for organizing the event. > 73,JohnK5ENQ > > From: "'Bry Carling AF4K' bcarling at cfl.rr.com [multi_elmac]" > To: "John Saxon johnbsaxon at yahoo.com [multi_elmac]" > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 2:24 PM > Subject: Re: [multi_elmac] PMR6A > > ? Many tanks John, > > I should have noticed that switch before. This little puppy will be a great addition to the > operating desk in February for the Novice Rig Roundup. > > It came with the factory power supply which has an S-meter and other nice features! > > 73 - Bry AF4K > > On 21 Oct 2015 at 2:59, John Saxon johnbsaxon at yahoo.c wrote: > > > > > ? > > Bry: ?I just took a very quick look at the manual from BAMA and there appears to be a bfo there...1/2 of a 12AT7. ?Page > 48 > > --- "S2 - position 4 -BFO on." ?Looks to me like it will do cw. > > --JohnK5ENQ > > From: "'Bry Carling AF4K' bcarling at cfl.rr.com [multi_elmac]" > > To: multi_elmac at yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 9:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [multi_elmac] PMR6A > > > > ? I just discovered that the PMR-6A doesn't receive CW. > > AM I mistaken? In reading the manual, it appears to be an AM-ONLY radio! > > > > As a "mostly CW" guy I am a bit troubled about this discovery (grin!) > > > > Thoughts? 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{margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;}#yiv4858328325 #yiv4858328325ygrp-text > {font-family:Georgia;}#yiv4858328325 #yiv4858328325ygrp-text p {margin:0 0 1em 0;}#yiv4858328325 > #yiv4858328325ygrp-text tt {font-size:120%;}#yiv4858328325 #yiv4858328325ygrp-vital ul li:last-child > {border-right:none !important;}#yiv4858328325 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > __._,_.___ > > > > > Posted by: John Saxon > > > > > Reply via web > post > o > Reply to sender > o > Reply to group > o > Start a New > Topic > o > Messages in this topic > (11) > > Multi-Elmac AM Net: Most Wednesday Nights at 7:00 P.M. C.T., 3880 kHz > (Net is down during Summer months). Collins net meets 1st Wednesday of month. > > > > Visit Your > Group > > Yahoo! Groups > o Privacy o Unsubscribe o Terms of Use > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > __,_._,___ From bcarling at cfl.rr.com Fri Nov 13 09:58:17 2015 From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling AF4K) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:58:17 -0500 Subject: [Novice-Rigs] FS: Heathkit IG-18 Signal Generator Message-ID: <5645FA89.22797.2EA06D09@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> FOR SALE: Extra nice Heathkit IG-18 Signal Generator This Sine/Square Wave Audio Generator IG-18 came on the market in 1969 and was produced until 1975. The assembled version IGW-18 was replaced by the SG-18A in the early 70's. They were replaced by the IG-5218 in 1977 and was produced until 1990. They were all very similar. The difference between them is mostly about the look and color. The IG-18 / IGW-18 was brown and beige colored, the SG-18A was black and white colored and the IG-5218 was blue and white colored. In the 1/1971 issue of The Audio Amateur magazine had an article. Detailed specifications may be found here: http://www.rsp-italy.it/Electronics/Kits/_contents/Heathkit/Kits/Heathkit%20IG-18%20Sine%20 square%20audio%20generator.pdf Comes with original manual and and some reprints of technical articles. Belonged to a SK calibration lab engineer and looks pristine. Available for $45.00 plus shipping 73 - Bry AF4K From bcarling at cfl.rr.com Fri Nov 13 14:50:09 2015 From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling AF4K) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 14:50:09 -0500 Subject: [Novice-Rigs] FOR SALE - Cool little HF AM Transceiver Message-ID: <56463EF1.29579.2FABA230@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> FOR SALE - Oregon Electronics Model FL-1 Transceiver. Very rare AM tube transceiver - Oregon Electronics Model FL-1 good for about 5 watts of AM on 15 MHz. Two channel radio has two crystals installed. This fine looking radio was owned by the State of Washington Division of Forestry. Beautifully built with metering, microphone included. Has a beautiful, shiny case and standard SO-239 connector for antenna. Lots of great parts inside if nothing else. Crystals, 14 tubes, two tank coils, transformers, 3 Miller I.F. Transformers 1400 - 1600 Khz, speaker, etc. etc. Comes with some basic documentation. No schematic. This USA-made transceiver is available for $59.00 plus shipping. Pictures and details at: http://af4k.com/radios.htm 73 - Bry Carling, AF4K From bcarling at cfl.rr.com Fri Nov 20 21:11:40 2015 From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling AF4K) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 21:11:40 -0500 Subject: [Novice-Rigs] FS: Drake Gear Message-ID: <564FD2DC.23487.1B0CC8DF@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> FOR SALE: Drake TR3 Transceiver - best looking one I have seen. No rust, no crud. Cabinet and faceplate / knobs all totally clean. Almost like new. $275.00 Drake AC4 Power Supply for the TR3 with cables. $120.00 Drake MS4 Speaker - also excellent. $50.00 All the above together for $375.00 plus shipping. Drake W4 Wattmeter - exc. $65.00 Drake 2B Receiver - looks great, $250.00 Drake SC2 converter - super rare. The Drake SC-2 is a 2 meter receive converter. Its potential receive range is 144-148 MHz. With the 25.1 MHz crystal that is supplied with the Drake R-4A, it will receive 144-144.5 and 145-145.5 MHz. If a 25.6 MHz crystal is added the to the R-4A, then coverage is 144-146 MHz. Further, if auxiliary crystals 27.1 and 27.6 MHz are also added, then the entire 2 meter band will be covered. The IF range is 14-18 MHz. The SC-2 requires 15-18 VDC at 40 ma. Looks excellent - $75.00 Drake MN2000 antenna Tuner - $250.00 Drake SPR4 Receiver - rather rare in this condition, excellent - $350.00 Shipping additional I will try to post pictures tomorrow at: http://af4k.com/radios.htm 73 de AF4K, Bry From bcarling at cfl.rr.com Sun Nov 22 16:25:09 2015 From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling AF4K) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:25:09 -0500 Subject: [Novice-Rigs] Multi Elmac AF67 In-Reply-To: <5645F206.21377.2E7F2E7A@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> References: <56425280.14441.20580BC5@bcarling.cfl.rr.com>, <710800019.3043999.1447187751258.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>, <5645F206.21377.2E7F2E7A@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <565232B5.23075.24532E93@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> Guys - I still have arelatively nice, complete AF67 for sale at $75.00 Would make a great winter project and provide someone with a FUN AM-CW transmitter for the HF bands. parts alone have to be worth more htan that. 73 de AF4K, Brian http://af4k.com/radios.htm From bcarling at cfl.rr.com Sun Nov 29 17:46:52 2015 From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling AF4K) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:46:52 -0500 Subject: [Novice-Rigs] I agree Message-ID: <565B805C.16883.CC32131@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> Dear David, I echo all of the sentiments below. I think that in retrospect, it was a huge mistake to take away so much CW spectrum from the General Class CW operators on 80m. I also want to STRONGLY OPPOSE expansion of WINLINK / PACTOR and any other UNATTENDED digital mode operations on our HF bands! They cause QRM and are a nuisance no matter what is done to claim that they have been cleaned up! Many of my ham friends and I confess to having missed the April 2015 QST article and your It Seems to Us page in the September 2015 issue. These articles discuss proposed changes to accommodate digital modes, while eliminating or reducing extra class phone privileges on 80 meters. Many of us have now been awakened to the ARRL?s conclusions and the proposed recommendations to its executive committee, and to the FCC. And while the door may be closed to the initial polling (only 1,000 respondents), we nevertheless feel the need for clarification, and if necessary an appeal for a reconsideration of these ARRL?s proposals. First, this may be simply a matter of clarification. I read, and then re-read both the September and April articles several times. I can find no assurance that the proposal would provide that the remaining 3650-3700 phone segment will be retained for the exclusive use of Amateur Extra Class licensees. While this may be merely an oversight, the absence of this assurance seems suspicious. A clear statement in your recap like "while the extra class phone exclusivity will be reduced by 50 kHz, the 3650-3700 segment will be protected for the exclusive use of holders of Amateur Extra Class licensees," would have eliminated much anxiety. Would you please clarify this via email and through QST as soon as possible. Next, many of us earned extra class licenses through hard work and devotion to the hobby. I earned mine shortly after incentive licensing was introduced in the 1970s. Incentive licensing is, in my opinion, one of the ARRL?s most significant initiatives. I was very proud to be awarded my new license, the extra band operating privileges, and the right to request special call signs. Many of us I am sure had the feeling that we were in the top of the class! Today of course, some of these hard earned "extras" have either disappeared or made available to a broader base of hams without that extra effort. Then there is the dropping of the 20 WPM code requirement, and the code requirement completely, etc., which further eroded the merit-based/privilege system that incentive licensing had launched. Moreover, remember that many of us are in our 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and so on, and we continually hear about the erosion of our other hard-earned rights in other areas of life (Social Security, Medicare, Veteran?s benefits, etc.). My recent posting to the qrz.com posting on this subject Friday rapidly became a popular topic. And discussions on nets to which I belong and among club members proved that many extras class licensees were totally unaware of these proposals. I have also received an extraordinary number of private emails since Friday questioning the ARRL?s motives, and the protection of our operating privileges. So David, would you kindly send your reply to me (via email) as soon as possible addressing the above points? Please address these specific questions: 1. Is it true that the ARRL proposal will protect exclusive Amateur Extra Class 80 meter phone frequencies (either 3650-3750, or even 3650-3700) and thus add that specific language to this proposal? And if not, why not? 2. Will you reopen this issue for further input now that a wider audience has had the time to become informed? (As of noon today, Sunday, there have been nearly 12,000 views on the qrz.com forum.) 3. When is the ARRL Executive Committee supposed to take this matter up, and where do we find a listing of the members of this committee? Thank you for your time, David. And thank you for the many fine things you and the ARRL do for our hobby. Respectfully, 73, Brian Carling, Af4K From gzook at yahoo.com Sun Nov 29 21:14:21 2015 From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 02:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Novice-Rigs] [Glowbugs] I agree In-Reply-To: <565B805C.16883.CC32131@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> References: <565B805C.16883.CC32131@bcarling.cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <1767263055.12931595.1448849661112.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The ARRL has been, seemingly, pushing for more WINLINK / PACTOR availability for some time. ?One speculation is that they hope to increase membership through more boat, and yacht, owners getting licenses specifically for operating using those modes because they do not want to have to pay for Internet access using considerably more expensive commercial links. ?Of course, being able to afford, and to operate, such watercraft usually requires a substantial investment and yet those same people don't want to spend any money to be able to use the Internet while on the water. ?Then, again, amateur radio operators also have a reputation as to being "cheap" and, I suppose, boat / yacht owners are no different where money is concerned! Although the ARRL does not normally make the actual number of members public, if one takes a look at the mailing notice that has to be published, periodically, that is in small print in the back of QST, it is pretty easy to get a pretty good idea as to the number of members. ? For some time, the ARRL has "pushed" EMCOMM to get new members to replace other members who have abandoned the ARRL and, it seems, that they are doing the same thing with boat owners. I abandoned the ARRL some time back because they have long stopped supporting what I believe the direction that amateur radio should take. ?Since I am not an ARRL member, I do not comment on the internal workings of that organization. ?However, when the ARRL submits petitions to the FCC, or even when they are proposing such, that affects the entire amateur radio population then I definitely do have the right to comment! Several years ago, the ARRL submitted a request for an NPRM that expanded WINLINK / PACTOR operations that they retracted after quite an uprising within the membership. ?It appears that they might be trying it again. I realize that thing are changing and have been changing for some time during the over 56-years that I have been licensed and some of those changes have been for the good of amateur radio and some have not been good for amateur radio. ?However, I definitely believe in doing everything possible to stop changes that are definitely?not in the best interests of the Amateur Radio Service. Glen, K9STH? Website: http://k9sth.net From: Bry Carling AF4K To: k1zz at arrl.net Cc: FLBOATANCHORS at yahoogroups.com; tetrode at googlegroups.com; Novice-Rigs at mailman.qth.net; amradio at mailman.qth.net; Arizona-AM at yahoogroups.com; dcboatanchors at mailman.qth.net; CarolinaHamSwap at yahoogroups.com; boatanchors at puck.nether.net Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 4:46 PM Subject: [Glowbugs] I agree Dear David, I echo all of the sentiments below. I think that in retrospect, it was a huge mistake to take away so much CW spectrum from the General Class CW operators on 80m. I also want to STRONGLY OPPOSE expansion of WINLINK / PACTOR and any other UNATTENDED digital mode operations on our HF bands! They cause QRM and are a nuisance no matter what is done to claim that they have been cleaned up! Many of my ham friends and I confess to having missed the April 2015 QST article and your It Seems to Us page in the September 2015 issue. These articles discuss proposed changes to accommodate digital modes, while eliminating or reducing extra class phone privileges on 80 meters. Many of us have now been awakened to the ARRL?s conclusions and the proposed recommendations to its executive committee, and to the FCC. And while the door may be closed to the initial polling (only 1,000 respondents), we nevertheless feel the need for clarification, and if necessary an appeal for a reconsideration of these ARRL?s proposals.First, this may be simply a matter of clarification. I read, and then re-read both the September and April articles several times. I can find no assurance that the proposal would provide that the remaining 3650-3700 phone segment will be retained for the exclusive use of Amateur Extra Class licensees. While this may be merely an oversight, the absence of this assurance seems suspicious. A clear statement in your recap like ?while the extra class phone exclusivity will be reduced by 50 kHz, the 3650-3700 segment will be protected for the exclusive use of holders of Amateur Extra Class licensees,? would have eliminated much anxiety. Would you please clarify this via email and through QST as soon as possible.Next, many of us earned extra class licenses through hard work and devotion to the hobby. I earned mine shortly after incentive licensing was introduced in the 1970s. Incentive licensing is, in my opinion, one of the ARRL?s most significant initiatives. I was very proud to be awarded my new license, the extra band operating privileges, and the right to request special call signs. Many of us I am sure had the feeling that we were in the top of the class! Today of course, some of these hard earned ?extras? have either disappeared or made available to a broader base of hams without that extra effort. Then there is the dropping of the 20 WPM code requirement, and the code requirement completely, etc., which further eroded the merit-based/privilege system that incentive licensing had launched. Moreover, remember that many of us are in our 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and so on, and we continually hear about the erosion of our other hard-earned rights in other areas of life (Social Security, Medicare, Veteran?s benefits, etc.).My recent posting to the qrz.com posting on this subject Friday rapidly became a popular topic. And discussions on nets to which I belong and among club members proved that many extras class licensees were totally unaware of these proposals. I have also received an extraordinary number of private emails since Friday questioning the ARRL?s motives, and the protection of our operating privileges.So David, would you kindly send your reply to me (via email) as soon as possible addressing the above points? Please address these specific questions:1. Is it true that the ARRL proposal will protect exclusive Amateur Extra Class 80 meter phone frequencies (either 3650-3750, or even 3650-3700) and thus add that specific language to this proposal? And if not, why not?2. Will you reopen this issue for further input now that a wider audience has had the time to become informed? (As of noon today, Sunday, there have been nearly 12,000 views on the qrz.com forum.)3. When is the ARRL Executive Committee supposed to take this matter up, and where do we find a listing of the members of this committee?Thank you for your time, David. And thank you for the many fine things you and the ARRL do for our hobby.Respectfully,73, From gzook at yahoo.com Sun Nov 29 22:39:51 2015 From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 03:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Novice-Rigs] historical question who many running CW compared to the 60s? In-Reply-To: <16bd8c.5125a5f0.438d144f@aol.com> References: <16bd8c.5125a5f0.438d144f@aol.com> Message-ID: <1585712381.12367684.1448854791976.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Interestingly enough, the number of people who are now actually learning the International Morse code is increasing even though a working knowledge of the code is no longer required. ?However, at least when listening to the bands, the actual percentage of operators using CW, as opposed to using SSB, is quite small. ?Of course, on one of the few weekends during the year, when there is a major CW contest, like this weekend, the usage is considerable. ?But, after 0000Z this evening, the number of signals dropped to almost zero! Remembering back to the 1960s, if I am remembering correctly, the actual number of CW stations operating, at any 1 time, was considerably more than what it is today. Of course, in those "goode olde dayes", considering the average wages of people, equipment was considerably more expensive in terms of percentage of wages. ?Back then, CW equipment was often barely affordable, by most amateur radio operators, AM transmitters were expensive, and, until at least around 1966, SSB equipment was, generally, VERY expensive. Of course, low powered AM equipment, like the Heath DX-40 and DX-60, were not that expensive. ?But, especially on 80, 40, and 20-meters, after dark, when the "big boys" came on, those with the low powered equipment went to CW or stopped operating completely. ?Today, when inflation is taken into consideration, and the effective purchasing power of money is considered, equipment is dirt cheap! ?One can get, today, a 100-watt SSB, AM, FM, CW HF transceiver for quite a bit less than what a 100-watt output AM / CW transmitter cost, in equivalent purchasing power, in the 1960s and that equipment is light years ahead in terms of performance.? Glen, K9STH? Website: http://k9sth.net From: "COURYHOUSE at aol.com" To: gzook at yahoo.com; bcarling at cfl.rr.com Cc: boatanchors at puck.nether.net; tetrode at googlegroups.com; Novice-Rigs at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 8:54 PM Subject: historical question who many running CW compared to the 60s? historical question :How many operators?are running CW now compared to the 60s?? numbers? percentage??? I am curious.Ed Sharpe Archivist? for SMECC From bcarling at cfl.rr.com Mon Nov 30 06:39:49 2015 From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 06:39:49 -0500 Subject: [Novice-Rigs] historical question who many running CW compared to the 60s? In-Reply-To: <17a3d0.5fe52aec.438d5f55@aol.com> References: <17a3d0.5fe52aec.438d5f55@aol.com> Message-ID: <119366A7-3674-4141-ACFF-6E79E0C5E0D1@cfl.rr.com> Resistance to the destruction of amateur radio? Best regards - Brian Carling AF4K Crystal Co. http://af4k.com Tel: 321-262-5471 > On Nov 30, 2015, at 3:14 AM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote: > > Thanks Glenn! that is interesting! Good to hear there is interest. but what do you attribute an increase to even when it is not needed? > Ed# > > In a message dated 11/29/2015 8:39:53 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, gzook at yahoo.com writes: > Interestingly enough, the number of people who are now actually learning the International Morse code is increasing even though a working knowledge of the code is no longer required. However, at least when listening to the bands, the actual percentage of operators using CW, as opposed to using SSB, is quite small. Of course, on one of the few weekends during the year, when there is a major CW contest, like this weekend, the usage is considerable. But, after 0000Z this evening, the number of signals dropped to almost zero! > > > Remembering back to the 1960s, if I am remembering correctly, the actual number of CW stations operating, at any 1 time, was considerably more than what it is today. > > > Of course, in those "goode olde dayes", considering the average wages of people, equipment was considerably more expensive in terms of percentage of wages. Back then, CW equipment was often barely affordable, by most amateur radio operators, AM transmitters were expensive, and, until at least around 1966, SSB equipment was, generally, VERY expensive. > > > Of course, low powered AM equipment, like the Heath DX-40 and DX-60, were not that expensive. But, especially on 80, 40, and 20-meters, after dark, when the "big boys" came on, those with the low powered equipment went to CW or stopped operating completely. Today, when inflation is taken into consideration, and the effective purchasing power of money is considered, equipment is dirt cheap! One can get, today, a 100-watt SSB, AM, FM, CW HF transceiver for quite a bit less than what a 100-watt output AM / CW transmitter cost, in equivalent purchasing power, in the 1960s and that equipment is light years ahead in terms of performance. > > > Glen, K9STH > > > Website: http://k9sth.net > > From: "COURYHOUSE at aol.com" > To: gzook at yahoo.com; bcarling at cfl.rr.com > Cc: boatanchors at puck.nether.net; tetrode at googlegroups.com; Novice-Rigs at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 8:54 PM > Subject: historical question who many running CW compared to the 60s? > > historical question :How many operators are running CW now compared to the 60s? numbers? percentage? I am curious. > Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC > From bcarling at cfl.rr.com Mon Nov 30 06:41:33 2015 From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com (Bry Carling) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 06:41:33 -0500 Subject: [Novice-Rigs] [Boatanchors] [Glowbugs] I agree In-Reply-To: <20151130044313.ADEOM.137178.root@cdptpa-web14> References: <20151130044313.ADEOM.137178.root@cdptpa-web14> Message-ID: <3770473E-0BCC-41D1-82BA-6B5D68A53AB1@cfl.rr.com> Overall it is a positive but amateurs vote with their feet and the vast majority don't belong to ARRL. I do... With some occasional reluctance. Best regards - Brian Carling AF4K Crystal Co. http://af4k.com Tel: 321-262-5471 > On Nov 29, 2015, at 11:43 PM, Ron Lawrence W4RON wrote: > > Wilson you are absolutely right. Everyone should be a member > of the league, if it weren't for the ARRL we wouldn't have > ham radio, the Navy tried to take control of everything radio > in 1919 and it was Maxium's work that stopped it. > Over the years there have been many attempts to kill ham radio > or at least take away big portions of or bands. > If you're not a member of the ARRL, PLEASE join, we need them > to be strong so they can protect us. > > cheers > > R- > > ---- Wilson wrote: >> I think we should all belong to and support ARRL. >> Agree with everything or not, they are far and away our best lifeline and >> guardian. >> Dropping out over an issue is petty. They can't please everyone all the >> time! > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Knee-deep in the cosmic overwhelm, I?m stricken > by the ricochet wonder of it all: the plain > > everythingness of everything, in cahoots > with the everythingness of everything else. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > 73, Ron W4RON > > http://radioheaven.homestead.com/menu.html > > http://antiqueradiocharlotte.homestead.com/2016.html > > > From gzook at yahoo.com Mon Nov 30 11:50:17 2015 From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Novice-Rigs] historical question who many running CW compared to the 60s? In-Reply-To: <17a3d0.5fe52aec.438d5f55@aol.com> References: <17a3d0.5fe52aec.438d5f55@aol.com> Message-ID: <1420929923.12779650.1448902217096.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I think that part of the answer to why people are now learning the International Morse code is the fact that knowledge is no longer a requirement! ?Since knowledge is not required, and, unfortunately, way too many operators today, even those holding Amateur Extra Class licenses, don't have a clue as to what is going on where CW is concerned, actually knowing the code is becoming a "status symbol"! In addition, newcomers are discovering that it is possible to have many QSOs with relatively low power even with less than mediocre' antennas, even with stealth antennas that are required because of CC&Rs, deed restrictions, and so forth. Then, again, a number of operators have discovered that using CW is just plain "fun"!? Glen, K9STH? Website: http://k9sth.net From: "COURYHOUSE at aol.com" Thanks Glen!? that is interesting!? Good? to?hear there is interest.? but? what? do you attribute an increase to even when it is not? needed? Ed#?