To follow up on the application side, VK3FS uses them, see these field deployments:

https://3fs.net.au/sg-lab-3400-mhz-transverter/
https://3fs.net.au/sg-lab-5700-mhz-transverter-version-1-4/

So once I get the SDR side of things figured out, make QSOs on 900, 1.3, and 2.3, then it'll be off to consider panel antennas for 2.3/3.4/5.8 (and find amps for the latter two).

- Thomas / WN1C


On 2025-08-30 16:47, Thomas Murphy wrote:

Oops, I sent the prior reply to only Jon, so I'll tack this next reply on to send it all back to the list.

I finally went and found the good example images from eBay listings that illustrate the structure. And saved the links on the correct device!

First up is this 2.4 GHz panel antenna: https://www.ebay.com/itm/387859865561
The last image shows the one with the damaged radome epoxy revealing the full 4x4 array of patches with power dividers. It looks to be constructed with a couple layers of styrofoam as the structural dielectric for the copper foil over the aluminum ground plane reflector.

Next up is this Wisconsin listing for a 5.8 GHz panel: https://www.ebay.com/itm/334903431113
The first image shows the multi-layered construction with the power divider array and patches on the lower PCB and an upper PCB with director parasitic patches in 4x4 array.

Finally, a British new design for 10 GHz: https://www.ebay.com/itm/267229434609
Same techniques, just with a simpler 2x2 array at much higher frequency so the reflector is built into the same PCB as the elements.

All in all, they're not particularly effective to homebrew, but there are enough commercial uses on various microwave bands that have overlap with amateur that 2.4/3.4/5.8 GHz options are out there in ready supply.

- Thomas / WN1C

On 2025-08-24 16:53, Thomas Murphy wrote:

Hello Jon,

My understanding with these panels is they're patch arrays over a ground plane. There was a pair of them with one broken radome that showed the underlying structure, but it looks like the eBay listing sold or expired. Some of them seem to implement dual, cross-polarity feeds, but a single polarity feed with higher gain would probably be better for us. Then it's just a matter of mounting the panel in the right position per the labeled polarization and port used since they're usually square.

6' booms sound effective, but I have neither the space nor plans for deployment capability for those. They'd also probably be difficult to carry around as I have limited ambitions for being able to play microwaves by SOTA rules (no engine-powered antennas/supports/power sources; human-portable station). Comparing the Directive Systems spec tables, it seems like some of the high-end panels reach the ballpark of the shorter beams. Obviously the beams work better for leaving strapped to the mobile than the profiles of the panels (16x16" or so)!

Do you have a reference for your mesh dish? If they're available cheap, that's quite handy. 27 dBi would be higher than the panels. I haven't seen those so far also going after some dishes in my searching. Of course, the best deals on dishes require being at the right hamfest at the right time. And I only have so much space for spares in my aspiration not to become an imminent source of cheap stuff at the next hamfest.

Now for continuing to figure what it takes to get this first little SDR working!

-Thomas / WN1C


On 2025-08-24 11:27, Jon Platt via NLRS wrote:
Hi Thomas.  I suppose like most answers, it depends.  

I am not overly familiar with panel antennas, so take this all with a grain of salt.  We are usually using horizontally polarized on these bands and I'm not sure what panel antennas are or if they are "flippable".  For portable work, most rovers are using loop antennas like those from Directive Systems https://directivesystems.com/  .  Loop antennas generally cover the bands from 902 to 3400.  Myself, when roving, I have had good luck using Directive System 6' boom loopers.  For my home station I also use loop antennas on these bands but with longer booms.   

For 5.7 I use a 27 dB wire mesh commercial dish .... you can find these all over the place online.  One advantage is that they come with a feed and they are lightweight and low wind resistance (important sometimes when roving !).

For 10GHz I've been using a re-purposed 24" dish with a home made horn feed.  

So overall, an advantage of a dish at this frequencies is that, in theory, you could use one dish and change out the feeds, or for some bands have a dual band feed.   Getting gain at 2.4 GHz does requires a bigger dish, something that could be challenging to handle when portable and dealing with weather; that's why loopers are pretty nice for that application.

Hope this was helpful.  Others may have some comment as well.

73, Jon
W0ZQ





On Friday, August 22, 2025 at 10:36:33 PM CDT, Thomas Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:


As an aspiring microwaver who will be fully committed to the portable
life for the foreseeable future, how are panel antennas for the
mid-microwave bands? Between WiFi/ISM and CBRS allocations, I've seen
eBay listings for 2.4/3.4/5.8 GHz panel antennas between 10 and 23-ish
dBi. Is their simplicity worth it in comparison to acquiring and tuning
a/multiple dish(es) for getting started?

- Thomas / WN1C

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