Hi John
I have used Intel NUCs for a few years now. 
  Most of them are 12 volts. Very very small and are absolute workhorses. 
  There are usually quite a few of them on Facebook marketplace as well as locally in a lot of the computer shops that have used machines

73 Art 
KØKUK

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Today's Topics:

   1. Suggestion on netbook-ish PC (Jon Platt)
   2. Re: Suggestion on netbook-ish PC (Nicholas Lager)
   3. Re: Suggestion on netbook-ish PC (scsueepe@mtcnet.net)
   4. Re: Suggestion on netbook-ish PC (Brad Johannes)


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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 16:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jon Platt <w0zq@aol.com>
To: NRLS Reflector <nlrs@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [NLRS] Suggestion on netbook-ish PC
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I have a question for the PC brain trust.??
I may be in the market for a low cost netbook/laptop that would support the following operating style.??When mobile/roving,?   
   - I running WSJT-x for FT8/MSK etc,? ?Also run?N1MM software for contest logging (VHF or HF).??
   - I live in a 12vdc World, its needs to be 12 vdc, no converters please.
   - Needs to be smallish in size as my Subaru radio shack cockpit is small.? Think what it would be like to sit in a small car while operating FT8, etc.??

I do not need a higher end laptop as I have one of those.? ??Suggestions?
73, JonW0ZQ
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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 11:24:42 -0500
From: Nicholas Lager <kb9skw@gmail.com>
To: Jon Platt <w0zq@aol.com>
Cc: NRLS Reflector <nlrs@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [NLRS] Suggestion on netbook-ish PC
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The 12 volts will be your biggest restriction, but I will offer a bit of a
option. Get a laptop that charges over USB C with Power Delivery. I can
charge my laptop from the USB C plug in my vehicle but cigarette plug
adapters are easily found.

Nicholas Lager

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025, 11:06?AM Jon Platt via NLRS <nlrs@mailman.qth.net>
wrote:

> I have a question for the PC brain trust.
>
> I may be in the market for a low cost netbook/laptop that would support
> the following operating style.  When mobile/roving,
>
>    - I running WSJT-x for FT8/MSK etc,   Also run N1MM software for
>    contest logging (VHF or HF).
>    - I live in a 12vdc World, its needs to be 12 vdc, no converters
>    please.
>    - Needs to be smallish in size as my Subaru radio shack cockpit is
>    small.  Think what it would be like to sit in a small car while operating
>    FT8, etc.
>
>
> I do not need a higher end laptop as I have one of those.    Suggestions?
>
> 73, Jon
> W0ZQ
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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 11:34:09 -0500
From: <scsueepe@mtcnet.net>
To: "'Jon Platt'" <w0zq@aol.com>,       "'NRLS Reflector'"
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Subject: Re: [NLRS] Suggestion on netbook-ish PC
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Jon, I use a Microsoft surface, with removable keyboard, touchscreen - been bullet proof.  Need to be sure that it has intel processor (and 16G ram), as the Microsoft processer (non intel) I don?t think works for some programs.  I don?t know the voltage? it does have a power cube that shows multiple voltages, 1.5, 5v, 15V? with a magnet 6 pin power connector.. so I?m guessing 3 for the hots and 3 independent grounds?  Weird..



I use an I7 version, never had an issue running software ? WSJT and logging.  Screen is small, but expandable with a small USB C screen or two, that works great.  Removable keyboard is great (magnetic) so can use as a tablet or a laptop.



73 and GL



KM0T



From: nlrs-bounces@mailman.qth.net <nlrs-bounces@mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Jon Platt via NLRS
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I have a question for the PC brain trust. 



I may be in the market for a low cost netbook/laptop that would support the following operating style.  When mobile/roving,

*       I running WSJT-x for FT8/MSK etc,   Also run N1MM software for contest logging (VHF or HF). 
*       I live in a 12vdc World, its needs to be 12 vdc, no converters please.
*       Needs to be smallish in size as my Subaru radio shack cockpit is small.  Think what it would be like to sit in a small car while operating FT8, etc. 


I do not need a higher end laptop as I have one of those.    Suggestions?



73, Jon

W0ZQ

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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 12:32:04 -0500
From: Brad Johannes <bradjrc@gmail.com>
To: scsueepe@mtcnet.net
Cc: NRLS Reflector <nlrs@mailman.qth.net>, Jon Platt <w0zq@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [NLRS] Suggestion on netbook-ish PC
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Jon,

Along Mikes note...
I recently acquired the newest 2025 MS Surface pro 12" (with detachable
keyboard and pen) and have been very impressed with it.
It runs Win11 with a Snapdragon processor, so you may have compatibility
issues with some software as Mike mentioned.
After seeing your question I did download wsjt, N1MM and N3FJP logger. All
installed and seem to run just fine but I didn't fully test. If you want
more details I might have some time this weekend to set it up with a radio
and run some Q's with it.
Battery life is amazing, nice bright and sharp screen, removable keyboard
so it can be used as a tablet. The newer surface pros only have 2 ports,
USB C, which it charges through with >27 watt charger. They no longer have
the proprietary power connector that sounds like what Mike has.
Might fit your needs depending on your definition of 'low cost'

73, Brad
KB0HNN


On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:34?AM <scsueepe@mtcnet.net> wrote:

> Jon, I use a Microsoft surface, with removable keyboard, touchscreen -
> been bullet proof.  Need to be sure that it has intel processor (and 16G
> ram), as the Microsoft processer (non intel) I don?t think works for some
> programs.  I don?t know the voltage? it does have a power cube that shows
> multiple voltages, 1.5, 5v, 15V? with a magnet 6 pin power connector.. so
> I?m guessing 3 for the hots and 3 independent grounds?  Weird..
>
>
>
> I use an I7 version, never had an issue running software ? WSJT and
> logging.  Screen is small, but expandable with a small USB C screen or two,
> that works great.  Removable keyboard is great (magnetic) so can use as a
> tablet or a laptop.
>
>
>
> 73 and GL
>
>
>
> KM0T
>
>
>
> *From:* nlrs-bounces@mailman.qth.net <nlrs-bounces@mailman.qth.net> *On
> Behalf Of *Jon Platt via NLRS
> *Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2025 11:06 AM
> *To:* NRLS Reflector <nlrs@mailman.qth.net>
> *Subject:* [NLRS] Suggestion on netbook-ish PC
>
>
>
> I have a question for the PC brain trust.
>
>
>
> I may be in the market for a low cost netbook/laptop that would support
> the following operating style.  When mobile/roving,
>
>    - I running WSJT-x for FT8/MSK etc,   Also run N1MM software for
>    contest logging (VHF or HF).
>    - I live in a 12vdc World, its needs to be 12 vdc, no converters
>    please.
>    - Needs to be smallish in size as my Subaru radio shack cockpit is
>    small.  Think what it would be like to sit in a small car while operating
>    FT8, etc.
>
>
> I do not need a higher end laptop as I have one of those.    Suggestions?
>
>
>
> 73, Jon
>
> W0ZQ
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