[NLRS] Converting DirecTV Feed Horn to 10 GHz
Greg Putrich
gregp at n0qds.org
Tue Jul 21 20:49:06 EDT 2026
Thanks Andy. Chris pretty much said the same thing, 1.4:1 is indeed just fine. My problem was I saw "loss" and "14-15 dB" and subtracted from the gain of the antenna (~30-33 dB). I had not registered "return loss" in the brain, which is not the same thing. Now that I can fully read, its just fine. That's what happens when doing multiple things at the same time.
I have the old LNB partially disassembled and now stuck trying to get the internal screws out to remove the board... they have a head that I don't have a tool for and pliers are only causing problems. I could probably drill them out since that board isn't going back in, but I'm going to save this for some other day. Might be a good winter project.
Lenny, I'll take you up on your generous offer which will get me on the air much faster.
Greg
N0QDS
> On Jul 21, 2026, at 19:26, aflowers--- via NLRS <nlrs at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
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> Hi Greg,
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> For a datapoint, I have a worse return loss in my system at around 14-15dB, measured at the N-connector on the coax-to-WR90 transition. That equates to something like 1.4:1 VSWR and the impact to the system NF from the mismatch is on the order of a tenth of a dB. More return loss would be welcome, but I don't know how noticeable it would be in the grand scheme of things as there are probably a few other places to find a tenths of a dB first. I'd do whatever got me on the band before the 10G and Up contest and improve from there. It doesn't mean modifying a TV dish feed is the easy path to success, but don't get caught up on a trying to achieve a 20dB+ return loss. You can do just fine with worse.
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> Good luck!
> Andy K0SM/2
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> On Tuesday, July 21, 2026 at 07:06:53 PM EDT, Greg Putrich via NLRS <nlrs at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
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> Thanks Bill, Ed, & Jon,
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> As I was reading the replies, I was wondering if it would just be better to make a new one instead of converting this one. I'll try the conversion just to see, but making a new one is probably the better answer. Ed said he saw around a 16 dB return loss, which is far too high. But I also don't have anything to measure the return loss.
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> In the picture you have, it appears to be the same dish that I have.
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> Greg
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> > On Jul 21, 2026, at 17:54, Bill Davis <cqbilld at yahoo.com <mailto:cqbilld at yahoo.com>> wrote:
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> > Greg I have done a bunch of these for my use. What follows is a link to an old web page of mine from over 20yrs ago. It describes the best I can of how I modified mine. I did not optimize with tuning screws since I have nothing to measure return loss at 10GHz. Some people have had good luck with this mod and at least one didn't do as well. I is a place to start and with the addition of tuning screws (some one else will have to help there) you should do ok.
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> > Others have built entirely new feeds -- Chris VA3ECO went that route.
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> > KØAWU 10Ghz Gear <https://www.qsl.net/k0awu/10GhzGear.html>
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> > KØAWU 10Ghz Gear
> > <https://www.qsl.net/k0awu/10GhzGear.html>
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> > 73 Bill K0AWU
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> > On Tuesday, July 21, 2026 at 11:33:36 AM CDT, Greg Putrich via NLRS <nlrs at mailman.qth.net <mailto:nlrs at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
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> > Hello,
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> > I have an old DirecTV dish and I'd like to convert its feed horn to be used on 10 GHz. It was working fine when I last used it ~15 years ago and it was removed from the roof a few years ago (thanks to a storm).
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> > I've tried to look up how to convert its feed horn to 10 GHz, but haven't found anything online. Can the original DirecTV feed horn be converted for use on 10 GHz and if so, does anyone know how? I have a DEMI 10 GHz transverter and will use a FT-817 to drive it. The dish is the oval one with a single LNB, its slightly oval vertically. I got it back in 2001.
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> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> > N0QDS
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