[NLRS] Repeaters in trouble in Cailfornia

Fri Dec 27 15:11:34 EST 2019

 It is amazing how this story got all twisted out of all proportion. Apparently the Internet is a big nationwide/global variant of the old Telephone experiment of many people telling a story complete with issues with fidelity to the source with each telling.
Basically the state of CA said that previous free sites on state owned towers may incur rent going forward. Somehow that doesn't seem sinister to me, we all face the realities of life. I'm currently a trustee for 4 repeaters and while our club has worked hard to maintain free rent on city towers, there are no guarantees of continued free lunch. Next Spring we will actually lose one of the sites as we won't be able to pay to stay on it after they do a tower restoration.
The right to question the usefulness of amateur radio during emergencies I think is possibly well earned. I would like to say that all hams are highly skilled and very effective operators, but I've sure seen a lot of people drawn into EmCom that don't make amateurs look too competent in the eyes of emergency agencies :( 
73
Phil, KB0NES
    On Wednesday, December 25, 2019, 01:06:46 AM CST, Matt Arthur via NLRS <nlrs at mailman.qth.net> wrote:  

 Hi all,

While i am glad that the artical has been debunked and all it is 
something  to think about.

You know back when they went to digital t v. Thema Federal emergency 
aAgency was given a very large chunk of spectrom in the 700mhz band.

This was for a nation wide network of some kind.

So i do think there are people in the government who would like to get 
rid of amature radio.

They are probably not saying alot but something i think we should be 
aware of.

I don't think it's something to be out right alarmed over but just 
something to think about.

Thanks 73 Matt ka0pqw

On 12/23/2019 9:50 PM, W7XU Arliss wrote:
>      
> There were several posts regarding this subject in the Elecraft reflector archives in October. The title of the thread is "Question for California Hams" and it began 12 October.
> milman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/
> The bottom line is as Jack described.
>
> 73, Arliss  W7XU
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "WA2VOI, Donn" <wa2voi at mninter.net>
> Date: 12/23/19  6:48 PM  (GMT-06:00)
> To: NLRS <NLRS at mailman.qth.net>, Jack <vhfplus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NLRS] Repeaters in trouble in Cailfornia
>
> That is good news, Jack.  Thanks !
> I did do a bit of "looking" before I posted, but found nothing other than references to
> the article itself.  Obviously, I had not seen what you had.  I've poked around a bit on
> the NCCC web site but haven't found anything there either.  Any chance you have a copy of
> what you saw that you could forward to me.  Just curious, but interested as to how it got
> "out of hand."  Thanks !!
>
> 73 Donn
> WA2VOI/0
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack" <vhfplus at gmail.com>
> To: "WA2VOI, Donn" <wa2voi at mninter.net>; "NLRS" <NLRS at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 12:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [NLRS] Repeaters in trouble in Cailfornia
>
>
>> I saw this "report" debunked on the Northern California Contest Club reflector. It
>> stemmed, as I recall, from a situation a repeater owner created on his own. I don't know
>> if it was negligence, stupidity, arrogance, or a combination of those, and other, factors
>> but the repeater operator apparently did not play well with the owner of the site at
>> which the system was located and made himself and his system persona non grata.
>>
>> Given the density of Amateur Radio repeaters in California the interface between EMCOMM
>> folks and local and state governments generally works pretty well.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jack, K0JP/VE3RUA
>>
>> On 12/23/2019 5:30 PM, WA2VOI, Donn wrote:
>>> Obviously, I can't speak to the veracity of this, but it doe not sound good. If true, I
>>> certainly hope it doesn't spread !
>>>
>>> Then again... California.
>>>
>>> 73 Donn
>>> WA2VOI/0
>>>
>>> https://wzogo.wordpress.com/2019/12/20/why-do-government-officials-want-to-ban-ham-radio-its-already-begun-in-california/
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