[NLRS] 222 MHz and Up Logging

W. S. Mitchell wsmitchell3 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 7 23:07:31 EDT 2017


I got it all squared away, though it was a bit ugly.  I manually
edited the QSOs in N1MM+ to include my six-digit grid square (had to
get in to change times anyway), and exported the Cabrillo file.  It
exported with my grids correctly, but the grid received was truncated
to 4-character.  I fixed those by hand (most were very simple, since
W0ZF/R didn't move very much).  Eventually I had to do a little
search-and-replace to get it accepted into the b4h.net/cabforms entry,
but it took.  I calculated the score by hand, but again since most
contacts were with W0ZF/R and symmetric around the grid corner, it
wasn't too bad.

73,
  Bill
AE0EE
Team UHF Da!




On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Dave Fugleberg <dave.w0zf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bill, I saw the same thing as you did with N1MM+. I had only about a third
> of my Qs in there at the time when I saw your note, so I exported to ADIF
> and imported to the N3FJP VHF logger, which has been updated to handle the
> new rules.  I then entered the remaining contacts into N3FJP's post-contest
> mode.
>
> One strange behavior in case anyone else uses that logger...the scoring was
> all wacky at first (for example, over 500 points for a Q between adjacent
> grids). I finally determined that the last 2 characters of the six-digit
> grid are case sensitive in N3FJP.
>
> It did not import my own grid from the ADIF, so I had to enter those by
> hand. The program will not allow you to enter the last two characters of
> the grid in upper case- it forces them to lower case. Unfortunately, it DID
> import the entire grid of the other station in UPPER CASE. There's
> something funky about the way the scoring logic deals with upper/lower
> case. If both sent and received grids were in lower case, OR both were in
> upper case, the scoring made sense. If they were not the same case, it
> would calculate crazy high scores. I'll send a note to Scott and let him
> know. You could never run into that if you used the program normally, since
> it forces entry to lower case.
>
> Anyhow, all is well and the log is submitted.  I think I may have failed to
> log one of our QSOs somehow...sorry about that. Anyhow, it was a good time.
> 73 de W0ZF
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Zack Widup <w9sz.zack at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> That was stated in the rules so I figgered everyone knew that. What
>> wasn't stated in the rules was the name of the contest as entered in
>> the Cabrillo file. I had to find that out by entering my log and
>> having a pop-up window tell me to select from the following contests
>> it listed.
>>
>> 73, Zack W9SZ
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Dr. Gerald N. Johnson
>> <geraldj at netins.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > The other difference is the 6 digit grids, very important when its
>> scoring
>> > on distance.
>> >
>> > 73, Jerry, K0CQ
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/7/2017 4:43 PM, Zack Widup wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The only significant difference is the name of the contest. That line
>> >> should say ARRL-222. Make sure you choose from the available
>> >> categories for this contest (e.g. there are no Portable categories).
>> >>
>> >> 73, Zack W9SZ
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Dr. Gerald N. Johnson
>> >> <geraldj at netins.net>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I have been making cabrillo logs manually for some years. You can
>> >>> download
>> >>> an example cabrillo template from ARRL.ORG though I don't know about
>> for
>> >>> this 222 distance contest. I use an ancient text editor, Wordstar 4.0
>> >>> (for
>> >>> DOS but I use it on OS/2) in non document mode so it doesn't fix excess
>> >>> spaces and excess line lengths or insert CR/LF where it thinks they
>> >>> should
>> >>> be. I also set it to not INSERT but to only replace characters. That
>> >>> should
>> >>> be as possible in old windoze WordPad or NotePad, preferable NotePad.
>> >>> Then I
>> >>> copy the template to a new file k0cqjvhf7.log and edit that replacing
>> the
>> >>> template calls, times, grids, dates, and station class. Then the next
>> >>> year I
>> >>> use last year's log for the template and its amazing how many times the
>> >>> calls come in the same order as last year.
>> >>>
>> >>> I won't be sending in a log for 222 this year, despite 9 hours or so
>> >>> operating time at home and roving to eastern Iowa, I made no contacts
>> so
>> >>> have nothing to report and Cabrillo doesn't have separate data for
>> >>> operating
>> >>> time, if figures operating time from the contacts reported.
>> >>>
>> >>> I haven't seen a definition of Cabrillo format specifying the column
>> >>> order
>> >>> but that is in the template or the number of spaces between columns or
>> >>> whether a particular column must start in the same place. There is
>> enough
>> >>> gap after call sign columns to take a kx9sss/r call sign and after the
>> >>> grids
>> >>> to take a 6 digit grid, if the robot understands 6 digit grids. So I'd
>> >>> take
>> >>> your N1MM+ Cabrillo and edit it to put in the 6 digit grids and try to
>> >>> submit that.
>> >>>
>> >>> 73, Jerry, K0CQ
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 8/6/2017 5:25 PM, W. S. Mitchell wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Greetings,
>> >>>>     I logged the 222 contest on paper, and have transferred the log to
>> >>>> an ARRL AUG UHF contest in a fully-updated N1MM+.  However, it is
>> >>>> clear that although N1MM+ documentation acknowledges the changes to
>> >>>> the contest, there is no change to the internal scoring (and,
>> >>>> critically, no export of 6-digit rover grid with the Cabrillo file).
>> >>>> Is there something here I'm missing---is anyone getting the contest
>> >>>> properly logging and exporting in N1MM+?  I'd rather not re-enter my
>> >>>> 55 QSOs.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>>     Bill
>> >>>> AE0EE/R EN34ix
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