[NLRS] FW: VHF low pass filters?
Dr. Gerald N. Johnson
geraldj at netins.net
Wed Jan 2 12:35:30 EST 2013
With only high band VHF and UHF TV stations the highpass filter at the
TV antenna can have a cutoff frequency above 150 MHz and so more easily
achieve good attenuation at 50.1 MHz.
I take it with channel 2 RF gone that 6m is a lot more practical in the
twin cities without the adjacent channel TVI and TV splatter across the
band.
Des Moines has the digital cluster tower a few miles north of the
existing analog towers at Alleman which are adorned with many other
antennas. That cluster of towers are 1500 and 2000 feet, big investments
in feed line and antennas.
I think less than 20 low band VHF stations kept their RF channels nation
wide. They had to work hard to get the antenna broadbanded and flat
enough for digital. To say nothing about getting the PA phase linear
too. Or maybe only the driver because most stations reduced power in
digital mode. The greater fractional bandwidth made that phase linearity
way more difficult. I suspect many a temporary UHF digital transmitter
and antenna was leased, not purchased.
I don't know if its still true but analog IPTV channel 11 and NBC outlet
WHO-TV channel 13 shared the same feed line and antenna with a big rat
race hybrid in their shared transmitter building. They are back on their
analog frequencies. As is KCCI, channel 8.
Channel 8's 2000 foot tower didn't survive construction the first time.
During a windy storm with freezing rain a big cable block up top got to
swinging and hit the tower section hard enough it folded the tower.
Another bit of trivia, ISU's WOI AM on 640 uses a tower that was also
built to hold channel 5 TV (which was also ISU at the time, since been
sold to a commercial operator) so its more like 5/8 wave than a quarter
wave. There is only one other 640 station in the country, in San
Francisco that's considered a clear channel station. For decades WOI had
to connect a dummy load to the antenna tuner to absorb about 1 KW RF
because the 5 KW transmitter was only type approved for full power, not
reduced power and 4 KW was all they could run daytimes and not annoy San
Francisco. That's changed now, they have another tower to the west of
the main tower that they switch in at night (before this they were
daytime only) to put a notch to San Francisco and can also now run the
same transmitter at reduced power. I don't know what power they run at
night.
WOI claims to have begun broadcasting about 1917, but that was actually
the ISU radio club station 9YI sending farm reports on CW or spark, a
ham activity before commercial messaging was made illegal on ham gear
and bands.
In those days two letter Y calls were commonly issued to colleges and
college professors.
73, Jerry, K0CQ
On 1/2/2013 11:00 AM, S. Earl Jarosh wrote:
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> The whole digital thing was a cluster from the get go, here is the current
> twin cities channel matrix with the exception that the full HD 45 is now
> dark. All was suppose to go to UHF then things in the gov happened and
> upper VHF was included. 9 and 11 where allowed to keep their original
> channels at the cutover. There was suppose to be No low VHF in the Digital
> plan and I did not know Des Moines was allow to keep their old analog
> channel 5 for DTV. Kind of defeats the purpose of the entire digital
> cluster fix.
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> Analog Station Network Temp Perm Apo Dpo
> Tower Loc
> 2 KTCA PBS 34 34 100KW 924KW Shoreview
> East
> 4 WCCO CBS 32 32 100KW 1000KW Shoreview
> West
> 5 KSTP ABC 50 35 100KW 1000KW Shoreview
> West
> 9 KMSP FOX 26 9 316KW 691KW Shoreview
> East
> 11 KARE NBC 35 11 316KW 774KW Shoreview
> West
> 17 KTCI PBS 16 26 141KW 50KW
> Shoreview East
> 23 WUCW CW 22 22 4570KW 1000KW Shoreview
> West
> 29 WFTC UPN 21 29 5000KW 1000KW Shoreview
> East
> 41 KPXM ION 40 40 2770KW 1000KW Big Lake MN
> 45 KSTC Ind 44 45 5000KW 82KW Shoreview
> West
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> S. Earl Jarosh, N0HZ
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