[NLRS] Aircraft Scatter

Barry Malowanchuk ve4ma at shaw.ca
Sat Dec 14 12:54:40 EST 2013


I would be surprised if there were many good aircraft opportunities between  you and Gary..such a short path...the best is if you can find a plane that is on path between you. I did this in the 80s with VE5LY in Regina, on 1296.  He had a 45 el looper and 10 W from a 1271?, we worked for up to 10 min at a time, did it 3 nights out of 5 on a 737. It showed the  usual flutter which is not likely from the exhaust contrail

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Davis" <cqbilld at yahoo.com>
To: "NLRS Reflector" <nlrs at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 9:43:57 AM
Subject: [NLRS] Aircraft Scatter



   The dongle based aircraft tracking thread is an interesting one, There are a number of aircraft tracking sites on the net, but they have in some cases a time delayed plot of the aircraft's position. I have at times tried to correlate the AC scatter enhancement on Gary W0GHZ's  signals with limited success.

   On Gary's skeds it is VERY UNUSUAL to NOT see aircraft "effects" on his signals. It seems to be more common on 1296 and then 902. I wouldn't characterize the effects be enhancement, for often there is as much "nulling" of the signal as anything else.

  Recently with the advent of the -20deg temps and low humidity, we have lost our 10GHz path from time to time. My memory may fail me, but I don't recall prior to the last couple of weeks seeing obvious AC enhancement on 10GHz. There has been 3 occasions over the last 2 weeks that Gary has been observed briefly 20db or more above the noise floor via AC scatter. In each case the enhancement did not seem to have obvious doppler. From that I assume the aircraft's path must have been at right angles to path? The enhancement as a result been VERY brief, 5sec or so.

  It will be interesting to look for more favorable aircraft position to increase the signal enhancement period. There are a few flights that look promising. Real time tracking would be certainly more helpful than the current services.

  After Christmas, I will investigate the real time tracking, looks interesting and CHEAP :-)

 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year


73  Bill  K0AWU
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