[NLRS] HF Contesting

[tom ring]

I found this as the first entry in my search.  It seems pretty clear it's been 
assigned as a worldwide emergency frequency.  Yes US operators can ignore it.  
And also that it's clear that any sociopath will ignore it.

http://forums.qrz.com/archive/index.php/t-339946.html

And regarding your comment on other means of communication, sometimes things 
fail or elements of the system are out of range when you need them.  And some 
people only have amateur radio.  Failbacks are a good thing.  Hope you never 
need one.

tom
K0TAR

On 31 Oct 2012 at 17:48, Ray J wrote:

> 
> 
> Why should the Maritime Mobile net be solely entitled to that frequency? 
> That is what this is about, isn't it?  FCC has said again and again no 
> groups or organizations are entitled to operate on any one set frequency..
>    If you are in a ocean  going vessel you should have sat phone or a 
> real marine radio.. The The Maritime Mobile Service Network has been 
> trying to ram rod this down peoples throat for years that 14.300 is 
> entirely there's,  now they have the ITU and radio manufactures joining 
> in with them..
> 
>   A search on Google didn't find any official government statement  that 
> 14.300 is a emergency frequency..  the  ITU is not a usa governmental 
> unit.. it's United Nations organization..  In the USA..  We answer to 
> the FCC, who say nothing about 14.300 as a off limits emergency 
> frequency.. Until that changes, this problem is going to continue
> 
>   But yes...  NO.. people should Ever be interfering with "real" 
> emergency traffic..
> 
> W9Ray
> 
> 
> On 10/30/2012 8:35 PM, tom ring wrote:
> >
> >
> > The first thing I have to say is that I have taken a couple days to calm down
> > from how I felt this weekend.  Because if I hadn't you all would likely have
> > stopped reading by now.
> >
> > There are a number of members that are serious HF contesters as well as the
> > normal, for here, VHF and up.  I'm asking maybe for advice or solutions or
> > maybe something else.
> >
> > This weekend while Sandy was hitting the east coast there were also a lot of
> > ships out there that depend on the Maritime Mobile Service Net and it's
> > associated nets for weather reports and a place to call for help.
> >
> > There was a contest this weekend.  I have no idea who ran it, nor does it
> > matter.  Except for the fact that contestants in all contests repeatedly
> > transmit on top of or within 2.5 KHz of the net.  Many refuse to leave or
> > ignored repeated calls to leave from stations that I am absolutely sure they
> > can hear.  These operators who are idiots, lids, sociopaths and especially not
> > amateur radio operators as described in the part of the rules where we are
> > described as a service, were endangering peoples lives.  And didn't care a bit.
> >   Even when told they were doing it.  I am much less upset now than I was then,
> > but I am still very very upset.  Obviously.  (I edited out quite a few things
> > after reviewing the previous paragraph.)
> >
> > I am asking for those of you with connections to use them to stop this.
> >
> > First 14.300 is an ITU internationally designated emergency frequency.  That
> > means to me that you aren't supposed to contest there.  It may not exactly
> > state that, but it seems to be in the spirit of the designation.
> >
> > If the contest organizers would state something like "No contestant shall
> > transmit with a carrier point frequency within 3 KHz of any designated
> > emergency frequency which shall include 14.300, xx.xxx, etc.  The penalty for
> > the first offense will be banning from the current contest results and a second
> > offense ....".  Or whatever is appropriate but it had better be harsh as the
> > people doing this don't seem to give a rat rear for anyone but themselves.
> >
> > I would love to hear thoughts and other solutions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > tom
> > K0TAR
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW  EN34hx
> > taring at taring.org
> >
> > What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth?  Judging from realistic
> > simulations
> > involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can
> > assume it will
> > be pretty bad.
> >                  - Dave Barry
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Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW  EN34hx
taring at taring.org

What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth?  Judging from realistic 
simulations 
involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can 
assume it will 
be pretty bad.
                - Dave Barry
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