[NLRS] Question on use of 144.200

Thu Jun 22 22:55:46 EDT 2006

All,

I've posted my comments on the VHF Contesting Reflector...basically I feel 
there is NO need for a ban of operations on 144.200 (or any calling 
frequency on any band) PERIOD!

I can't agree more with Russ and Earl (Steve?)..."we" (the VHF/UHF 
contesting community) need to work with/apply peer pressure to abate such 
practices as monopolization of the calling frequencies, stateside stations 
calling CQ in the 50 MHz "DX Window"...while I DIS-agree with anyone making 
a rude comment as Russ related (probably UN-identified and therefore more 
"lid" than the stateside station calling CQ there), "we" need to practice 
what is preached. I hope that no one made a QSO with any stateside station 
that was calling CQ in the 50 MHz DX Window...I didn't call the one that I 
heard. If "newbies" make mistakes, let's try to be tactful in explaining the 
error of their ways...if it's "old dogs" (like myself...I even have a 
"Canine" call)...well...maybe we're out of luck there ;-) hi hi

Just as I suggested that "we" NOT work the stateside stations that "we" hear 
calling CQ in the 50 MHz DX Window...maybe "we" need to NOT work the 
station(s) that "we" think monopolizes a calling frequency, even if "we" 
hear them calling away from there...if they have no one to work...they 
_might_ get the idea (or they might go away though "we" don't necessarily 
want THAT to happen, "we" DO want to keep the bands occupied).

I DO like the idea of a "Contesting Best/Appropriate Practices" web 
page...still might not do anything for the "old dog" fraternity to which I 
belong but might be a useful resource for younger dogs who may still be able 
to learn new tricks as well as newbies.

73, JK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rusty Lane" <barraadventures at yahoo.com>
To: <earl at jarosh.org>; <W0ZQ at aol.com>; <nlrs at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 19:33
Subject: RE: [NLRS] Question on use of 144.200

I agree with Earl, we don't need more rules just
encourage better operating practice's.
The contests are so few and far between in comparison
to the whole year!
I heard someone on 50.120 calling CQ Contest this June
and someone broke in and made a rude comment. There
will always be LIDS no matter what you do.
Cheers, Russ

--- "S.  Earl Jarosh" <earl at jarosh.org> wrote:

>
>
> What bothers me here is; What is the purpose?  It
> seems that the whole
> premise is pointless.  This proposal would not
> spread people throughout the
> band.  If the idea is to eliminate congestion on
> 144.200, then it will just
> transfer to somewhere else like 144.175 and that
> will become the new
> "contest calling frequency".  Again I say change
> must not be done just for
> change sake,  there must be a purpose behind a
> change not a change in search
> of a purpose.  Leave well enough alone.  This has
> worked well for years.
> Don't look for ways to penalize users working a
> contest rather look for
> other ways to promote more involvement in contests,
> band use, etc.  Create
> bonus points per contact to get people on the road,
> to go portable in a
> field, work solar or battery.  If there is a problem
> with the calling
> frequency maybe the national calling frequency
> should be moved to say
> 144.300 and then there is no problem.  144.200 stays
> as it is and if there
> are those that are bothered by the contesting or
> grid hunting then they have
> a new calling frequency that they can monitor 24 hrs
> a day that has no
> traffic.
>
> That's all I have to say about that.
>
>
> S. Earl Jarosh
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> "People who say it cannot be done should not
> interrupt those of us who are
> doing it." -- Anonymous
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nlrs-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
> Behalf Of W0ZQ at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:10 PM
> To: nlrs at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [NLRS] Question on use of 144.200
>
>
>
> Hello NLRS land.
>
> Our ARRL VUAC (Vhf Uhf Advisory Committee) is now up
> and  operational.
> Lauren Libby, W0LD, our VUAC chairperson has
> launched  us on our first
> official
> assignment.   The question is this - Is there  a
> rationale to change the
> VHF/UHF
> contest rules to not allow the  use of 144.200
> during ARRL contests ?    If
> not a rule change,  what about other action such as
> a FAQ page on using the
> calling frequency or a  page on best practices for
> contest operations ?
>
> If you have some thoughts on this subject, you can
> reply direct to me, or
> to
> the NLRS reflector (discussion is good).   Please
> feel free to
> share/forward
> this with others.
>
> 73, Jon
> W0ZQ
> Dakota VUAC
>
>
> Come and join  us here in Bloomington, Minnesota,
> home of the Mall of
> America, July 28 &  29, 2006 for the 40th annual
> Central States VHF Society
> Conference hosted once  again by the NLRS.