[NLRS] Re: Log Checking Reports for VHF Contests

Gary Mohrlant w0ghz at comcast.net
Sun Oct 23 10:54:33 EDT 2005


I have talked to Dan Henderson at the ARRL about this problem.

The problem is:

I worked W0AUS from his house in EN35 on all band except 10Ghz and 24Ghz.

Later on W0AUS came over to my QTH area in EN34 and we worked 10Ghz and 
24Ghz while he was in EN34.I live near the grid line and Bob went into 
EN35 and we worked both bands again.

Since W0AUS didn't work me on these bands from home he can't include 
them in the log he will send in. If he doesn't send in a check log the 
contacts we made won't show up when my log is checked against his home 
log and the contact is counted as a bad ones.

So -  John if you were out for the weekend as a rover and then got home 
and worked a few stations and sent in log for those contacts and for 
some reason didn't send in your Rover log everyone that worked you as a 
rover would be docked points for every contact they made with you.

The ARRL is working on the problem. The fix right now is to send in a 
log if you work from home and a check log if you also go out as a rover 
or portable station or send in your Rover log and a check log for your 
home contacts.

One problem right now is that if you send in a electronic log and then 
send in a check log it over writes the log you first sent in. The way 
you have to do it right now is send in your log to the robot and then 
email your check log to Dan Henderson .

I don't know if this is clear and if it isn't give me a call at 
651-777-1369 and maybe I can explain it better on the phone.

Gary W0GHZ





John (JK) Kalenowsky, K9JK wrote:
> 
> Glen (and others interested),
> 
> I, too, noticed a drop from my 'claimed' to the published score, of close to 
> 3%, and, by looking in the Database of scores (also available only to 
> members), I see that there was a reduction of 4 QSOs and 1 Multiplier in my 
> score, all on 50 MHz. Other bands were OK.
> 
> Comparing the posting of Glen's results on the NLRS page to the ARRL Scores 
> database, I see a reduction of 2 QSOs and 1 multiplier on 50 MHz and 2 QSOs 
> on 222 MHz.
> 
> As far as what actually might have happened, Rule 7.8 of the General contest 
> rules talks about the pentalties for dupes, miscopies and busts. I'm pretty 
> sure my checking for dupes was accurate (and dupes aren't *supposed* to be 
> penalized in an electronic log anyway) so I'm guessing that I had two 
> miscopies or busts, plus two more assessed as penalty, for the reduction of 
> four, and one of them must have been a unique mult. I logged on paper while 
> roving, and transferred to computer later to generate Cabrillo, so maybe I 
> made a transcription error or maybe I thought I worked someone that I 
> didn't...it would be nice to know for sure!
> 
> Personally, I would also like to see the Log Checking Reports (LCRs) made 
> available for the VHF Contests.
> 
> Since the League seems to have the process in place to make the LCRs 
> available (at least for Sweepstakes and the DX Contests...160 Meter contest, 
> too), it seems it should not be too difficult to add it for VHF Contests 
> (which also typically represent smaller counts of logs). Is that something 
> that "we" want to push for, either individually or as NLRS or through other 
> contest clubs to which we belong?
> 
> 73, JK
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glen Overby" <goverby at charter.net>
> To: <nlrs at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 00:29
> Subject: Re: [NLRS] June VHF contest results are out
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> W0ZQ wrote:
> 
>>The ARRL has released the results from the June VHF contest .... check out
>>the their members only website.
> 
> 
> My claimed score was 49,200 but the ARRL lists my score as 48,114.  Thats a
> 2.2% difference!  I think this is a smaller difference than January, but 
> it's
> still a lot.  I'd really like to find out what caused the discrepency.  I
> think the loss of just one or two grids would do it.  Did anyone find out 
> what
> happened with January's scores?
> 
> Maybe it's time for a "broken QSO" report for the VHF+ contest?
> 
> Glen
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