[NLRS] 24 GHz snow scatter QSO

Barry VE4MA ve4ma at shaw.ca
Mon Dec 12 21:44:17 EST 2005


Congratulations Mike & Jon,

This work is outstanding......blazing the trail for others to follow!  I am 
really looking forward to the 2006 RS season to see what 24 is like.

In looking at the radar traces the snow looked surprisingly dense ( wet?). 
That is not what the light powder looks like here...but will have to keep a 
closer eye on what is down in the Fargo area

Best 73
Barry VE4MA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike King - KM0T" <scsueepe at mtcnet.net>
To: <nlrs at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [NLRS] 24 GHz snow scatter QSO


>
>
> Hi guys, it was pretty cool.  I saw Jon right away, so that was very nice 
> after months of nothing heard as Jon indicated.
>
> I updated the website front page with a screen shot of the Rainscatter 
> (snow) program and also a screen shot of the SDR-1000 of what the signal 
> looked like.
>
> Thanks for the new grid Jon, awesome job in the cold.  I was sitting 
> toasty in the shack cheering the vikes to victory while I was running the 
> QSO!
>
> 73
>
> Mike - KM0T
>
> PS - we are running about 2.5 to 3 watts on each end.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <W0ZQ at aol.com>
> To: <nlrs at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: <w3zz at arrl.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 3:54 PM
> Subject: [NLRS] 24 GHz snow scatter QSO
>
>
>>
>>
>> Mike, KM0T (EN13vc) and I worked on 24 GHz snow scatter at around noon
>> today.  My grid was EN34fs, Scott County Towers, a distance of 175.5 
>> miles,  or
>> 274.2 km.   Mike and I have been trying the EN34/EN13 path for  several 
>> months
>> and had yet to hear each other until today.   After  months of listening 
>> to
>> hiss, it sure was nice to hear Mikes CW signal !
>>
>> There was snow between us, but no snow on my end.   Temperature  was 20
>> degrees F with no wind.   We found each other on 10gigs with  good S9 
>> signals which
>> helped to line up dishes on 24 GHz.  The bearing  on 10 GHz was somewhat
>> broad, sometimes typical of rain scattter.   I started to beacon on 24 
>> GHz and
>> Mike found me pretty quickly  ....  signals on 24 GHz were not strong, 
>> above the
>> noise, and with no tone;  definitely scatter, much like aurora signals 
>> ....
>> what I like to call a  very nice CW contact.   We did tried SSB and we 
>> could
>> tell that there  was a signal there, but it could not be read.  FM 
>> resulted in no
>> detection  at all.
>>
>> Following this I drove to EN25xb, the site by Howard  Lake, but by the 
>> time I
>> got there the snow had moved on.   Although  EN25xb is actually a few 
>> miles
>> closer, condx on 10 GHz to Mike's were not very  good with only S3 like 
>> signals
>> and with nothing at all heard on 24  GHz.    We also tried a skewed path 
>> to a
>> heavier area of snow  fall, but signals on 10 GHz were very weak.
>>
>> We have tried EN34 to EN13 on 24 GHz via rain scatter before with no 
>> luck to
>> date, but perhaps snow scatter has some advantages at 24  GHz.   Both 
>> Mike
>> and I are running about 4 watts and 19" dishes
>>
>>
>> 73, Jon
>> W0ZQ
>>
>>
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>> America, July 27 & 28, 2006 for the 40th  annual Central States VHF 
>> Society
>> Conference hosted once again by the  NLRS.
>>
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