[NLRS] Winipeg to Minneapolis 10GHz !

Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:23:10 -0500

Well Mike ready to try it?

I am going out for a few minutes but will call on return

Barry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Baker, Donn B" <[email protected]>
To: "'Mike A. King - KM0T'" <[email protected]>; "NLRS"
<[email protected]>; "'VE4MA, Malowanchuk, Barry (hm)'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: [NLRS] Winipeg to Minneapolis 10GHz !

> Hi Guys.
> Playing with the map just now seems to indicate that when storms are ~75
mi
> WSW of Fargo to ~100 mi ESE of Fargo, you should have the best chances.
> There's lots of summer thunderstorm season left, and 754 km would be the
new
> record.  (Besides, Mike, its a new one for the count on "States Above !")
>
> 73 Donn
> WA2VOI/0
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mike A. King - KM0T [mailto:[email protected]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:12 AM
> >To: NLRS
> >Subject: Re: [NLRS] Winipeg to Minneapolis 10GHz !
> >
> >
> >Hi Guys,
> >
> >I was on last night as well, but heard nothing but a whisper
> >here and there.  In fact it may have been nothing.  But I
> >suspect it was possibly very weak backscatter from the EN34
> >stations.  But cant tell for sure.  I was moving the headings
> >all the way from NW to NE and varied the elevation controls as
> >well.  I listend for about a half an hour and then the storm
> >came thru here with real bad winds, so I parked the dishes and
> >turned it all off.
> >
> >I called Jon on the cell phone, right after he had worked
> >Barry, At least I got to listen to VE4 on 10 ghz via the cell!
> >
> >Great job guys!
> >
> >754 KM....Hmmmmm.  I will be watching the WX!
> >
> >73
> >
> >Mike - KM0T
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ----- Original Message ----- 
> >  From: Chris Cox
> >  To: Donn Baker
> >  Cc: [email protected] ; Barry VE4MA ; [email protected]
> >  Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:07 AM
> >  Subject: Re: [NLRS] Winipeg to Minneapolis 10GHz !
> >
> >
> >  Good morning, Donn.
> >
> >  On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Donn Baker wrote:
> >  > I'd be interesting hearing about the doppler... how severe
> >was it ?  The
> >  > books say it shouldn't have been too bad, but what did
> >reality say ?
> >  It was quite interesting, actually.
> >
> >  I stopped over at the Burnsville Parkway overlook just
> >before 0100Z and
> >  caught the tail end of the event.
> >
> >  Barry's signal was somewhat distorted, akin to CW Au on
> >50MHz where there
> >  was still a goodly amount of pure tone audible through the
> >"shh".  This
> >  was obviously forward scatter.  Listening to John, 'FQA, and
> >Gary, 'GHZ,
> >  via backscatter presented no audible CW tone, only the
> >typical Au quality
> >  most common on 144MHz and up.  Doppler offset from the
> >centre frequency
> >  was virtually non-existant - the signal was simply spread
> >over a few kHz
> >  around the nominal frequency.
> >
> >  It is possible that the difference in quality of Barry's
> >signal relative
> >  to John and Gary was also partially due to forward
> >troposcatter rather
> >  than the auroral-sounding rain-scatter.  Too little
> >experience to say for
> >  sure.
> >
> >  Excellent fun regardless!
> >
> >   >
> >  > Does anyone have a radar picture of the N Minnesoata area
> >(Grand Forks
> >  > radar, or MSP radar on long range scan) for the time of
> >the QSO ?  It would
> >  > be nice to have  to see what the storms were....
> >
> >  I am sure there is an archive somewhere that may contain an
> >image.  When
> >  Jon and Barry initially made contact, there was a reasonable
> >storm present
> >  centred just to the east of Bemidji.  There was also a much
> >larger and
> >  visibly more intense storm system present to the north of the path
> >  covering a large north-south area, but fairly narrow
> >east-west area.  This
> >  appeared to be centred over International Falls.  Given the
> >beam headings
> >  used at each end of the link, I think it unlikely that this
> >larger system
> >  was used for the contact.  Given it's significantly larger
> >size it may
> >  have worked as well or better than the Bemidji system.
> >However, it also
> >  may have been too far to the North of MSP and/or East of WPG.
> >
> >  -- 
> >  73  Chris Cox  N0UK, G4JEC, ex-AB0CN, ex-G8PTC  RNARS #1157  EN34jv
> >
> >  [email protected]        Ping Jockey's do it until they HEAR
> >the burn...
> >    WWW Home Page: http://WWW.Chris.Org/   http://www.pingjockey.net
> >  Cultural observation:
> >  Europeans think 100 miles is a long way;
> >  Americans think 100 years is a long time!
> >
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