[NJARC] Newsletters should be free
TrainBee
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Tue Jun 12 16:04:54 EDT 2018
Up to now, I've been sitting on the sidelines reading the comments. Each offering makes sense, but up until I saw Jim's comments, which I completely agree with, I couldn't understand why we would give away a benefit of NJARC Membership. The publicity of the NJARC is in the hands of each member. If each member is not actively promoting the NJARC, then why be a member?
Over the nearly 20 years of my NJARC membership, I've taken the time to look at, and join, other radio / vintage electronics related organizations. Most have something, but for the most part, none have all that the NJARC has. Only a few Amateur Radio clubs come close to what the NJARC has to offer. I took on the role of asst. editor of another club, along with soliciting articles, editing them, if you get any, and then putting the whole newsletter together. It is no easy feat! With that stated, I would not so humbly suggest that we have, and keep, mandatory membership for the current months newsletter. We already post it for FREE, as do other clubs, on our website at least a month after publication.
I am amazed each month how Marv Beeferman manages to put together such a quality newsletter, and get it to each member, each month. This is not my first venture into putting a newsletter together, and with help this time. Just in case you were wondering, it's with the NEARC. With the lack of articles sent in from members, Marv has to look for articles each month. I wouldn't venture a guess to how much time he spends on this alone. It is more than most would even bother to put the time into had they taken on the position of NJARC Editor. You don't need a Broadcaster to find out about Swapmeets or Hamfests. The Swapmeets are listed for FREE on the NJARC website and the ARRL also lists the NJARC Swapmeets. There are other venues with Swapmeet listings as well.
Another FREE offer we have are the monthly webcasts of our meetings. I was one of the 7 or 8 watching the last Webcast meeting. I don't know who the others were, but I was glad to know I wasn't the only one. Cudo's to Dave Sica for his initiative to keep this going. What other club does this? It's the only option some for some of us who no longer live local to the meetings and to stay in touch. And, let's not forget Aaron Hunter the keeper of the Schematic Library. I try not to over use his kind help.
We wouldn't have this list via QTH.com without John Dilks. Thank you for your continued effort to keep this going. John, I hear what you are saying, I don't think I've ever disagreed with you, but I don't think listing the current month's newsletter is a good idea. Another case in point is the Canadian Vintage Radio Society. https://canadianvintageradio.com/ They do put their newsletter on their website. Members can view it, and if you pay the membership fee, you can view it. I offer this as a possible option for the NJARC to draw new members. For the membership fee the NJARC has, it is small in comparison to the amenities the NJARC has to offer. And, some of them are already free via our website.
Respectfully,
Joe Devonshire AB1YO
Jefferson, ME
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From: Jim Whartenby <antqradio at sbcglobal.net>
To: ROBERT FORTE <rvforte at gmail.com>
Cc: Marv Njarc <njarc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, Jun 12, 2018 11:27 am
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I have a feeling that this maybe a solution in search of a problem.
Perhaps it is time to survey new members and find out how they discovered NJARC and go from there. If I was to venture a guess, I think it would still be by word-of-mouth.
Out of curiosity, how many dues paying members does NJARC currently have? If memory serves me well, membership has always hovered around 400 give or take. Is this still the norm?
NJARC, in my mind, is an exceptional club. Most radio organizations I have had the pleasure to visit have nowhere near the membership or the variety of programs. The only club I have seen that comes anywhere near to the membership and breath of programs of NJARC is the Vintage Radio and Phonograph Society (VRPS) located in the Irving-Dallas-Fort Worth area of Texas.
Anyone have first hand knowledge of other similar sized clubs?
Jim
From: ROBERT FORTE <rvforte at gmail.com>
To: David Sica <davesica at gmail.com>
Cc: Marv Njarc <njarc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:58 AM
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I GUESS IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO WHAT OUR GOAL IS. DOES KEEPING OUR BROADCASTER FREE ATTRACT NEW MEMBERS WITH ALL THE INFO IT GIVES, OR DO WE LIMIT THE CURRENT BROADCASTER TO DUES PAYING MEMBERS? IN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT BACK ISSUES ARE AVAILABLE FOR FREE ANYWAY, I STILL AM OF THE OPINION THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO OUR NEWSLETTER, MEMBER OR NOT. IT IS A FORM OF ADVERTISEMENT. TO OUR MEETINGS, PARSIPPANY SWAP MEETS, TAILGATE SWAP MEET, REPAIR CLINICS, REGULAR MONTHLY MEETINGS (WHICH ARE NOT LIMITED TO CLUB MEMBERS, AS A FEW GUESTS ARE ALWAYS INTRODUCED BY RICH EVERY MONTH). YES, SOME PEOPLE WILL GAME THE SYSTEM, NOT PAY DUES BUT AVAIL THEMSELVES OF OUR LARGESSE, BUT IT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN GOING TO CHURCH, OR ANY FREE EVENT, WHERE SOMETHING IS GIVEN, AND DONATIONS ARE THEN REQUESTED. SOME WILL GIVE, SOME WILL NOT. DO WE KEEP PEOPLE AWAY FROM A CHURCH SERVICE, OR ANY COMMUNITY EVENT, BASED ON THEIR COMMITMENT TO PAYING, I THINK NOT. UNTIL WE LIMIT OUR MEETINGS, REPAIR CLINICS, SWAP MEETS TO MEMBERS ONLY, WITH A MEMBERSHIP CHECK AT THE DOOR, WE ARE LIMITING OURSELVES TO GROWTH, AS THERE IS NO BETTER WAY TO ATTRACT NEW MEMBERS THAN BY SHOWING THE PERSPECTIVE NEW MEMBER ALL THE BENEFITS OF OUR CLUB. ROB FORTE
On Jun 11, 2018, at 10:46 PM, David Sica <davesica at gmail.com> wrote:
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Over a hundred back issues of the newsletter have been available on the website for some time now.
-- Dave
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On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 3:47 PM Al Klase <ark at ar88.net> wrote:
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Rob,
The long standing theory is that we have a number of faithful NJARC members, some in remote locations, whose primary participation is reading the Broadcaster. I have personally done this in the past with other clubs, and remain a member of AWA. It's a little hard to judge the financial impact of freeing up the newsletter.
I vote don't fix it if it ain't broke.
Al
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I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT JOHN. WHAT IS THE DOWNSIDE? NONE AS I SEE IT. THOSE THAT LIKE THE CLUB WILL GLADLY FORK OVER $25/YEAR FOR DUES. AND WHAT IS THE ENFORCEMENT FOR NON-PAYING MEMBERS? DOES ANYONE CHECK MEMBERSHIP AT OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS, WORKSHOPS, OR SWAP-MEETS? NO. SO LET THE WORLD SEE OUR BROADCASTER, LIKE ALL THE OTHER FREE POSTED VIDEOS. ROB
On Jun 9, 2018, at 12:44 PM, John Dilks <oldradio at comcast.net> wrote:
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Newsletters should be free and posted on the club web page to attract new members. If you want the club to grow, publicity works. And the newsletter is good publicity.
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73, John Dilks, K2TQN
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