[NJARC] Fwd: H-New-Jersey daily digest: 6 new items have been posted

[fred-carl.]

A question on WOR.....and an answer?

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> To: "fred-carl at INFOAGE.ORG" <fred-carl at INFOAGE.ORG>
> Subject: H-New-Jersey daily digest: 6 new items have been posted
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> Greetings Fred Carl,
> New items have been posted in H-New-Jersey.
> 
> Table of Contents
> 
> Today in New Jersey history - May 1 [discussion]
> Re: Today in New Jersey history - April 17 [discussion]
> Re: Today in New Jersey history - April 24 [discussion]
> Re: Newark radio history [discussion]
> Former Ridgewood Ruin [discussion]
> History of radio station WOR [discussion]
> Today in New Jersey history - May 1 [discussion]
> 
> by Marc Mappen
>  
> 
> [From author Joseph Bilby]
> 
> May 1, 1707: The treaty of unification between Scotland and England became effective, making New Jersey a royal colony of Great Britain.
> 
> May 1, 1778: In a rollicking May Day celebration at Valley Forge, the men of General William Maxwell’s Continental Army New Jersey Brigade, some dressed as Indians and well fortified with whiskey, marched, hats adorned with cherry blossoms, with “mirth and Jollity” in honor of “King Tammany.”
> 
> Read more or reply
> Re: Today in New Jersey history - April 17 [discussion]
> 
> by Don Sherblom
> RE: April 17, 1779- Local militiamen chased a gang of Tory raiders from Pompton to Hoebuck, killing one: How do we know they were Tories?
> 
> It’s an uphill battle but I would like to see us historians eschew the word “Tory” to describe Loyalists. The rebels usually employed the term “Tory” not as an accurate description but as war-time propaganda. We should not perpetuate what was an effective term of approbation used in war-time propaganda that was hardly ever intended to convey a true picture of the conflict. As historians we should be wary of terms that distort reality, that warp our interpretation of the conflict.
> 
> By the mid-18th Century, most colonists were probably Whigs. There were Whigs on both sides of the War for Independence, not every Loyalist embraced the political beliefs of the Tory political party. Also, as a special case, Black Loyalists, of which there were tens of thousands and several hundred in New Jersey, were not Tories, just freedom-seekers.
> 
> I have not made a study of it, but I believe connotations of the term "Tory" darkened as the war progressed, partly due to events and partly as a conscious bit of propaganda to give our side the edge. Look to Governor Livingston for synonyms as an evil being.
> 
> I know it's satisfying to employ the war-time propaganda but let’s please forgo the pleasure.
> 
> Don Sherblom, The 1759 Vought House, A Revolutionary War Loyalist Homestead
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> Re: Today in New Jersey history - April 24 [discussion]
> 
> by Anthony DeCondo
> Where in New Jersey did the review for the Chevalier de la Luzerne happen?
> 
> Read more or reply
> Re: Newark radio history [discussion]
> 
> by Jeffrey Moy
> Hi Scott:
> 
> The Newark Public Library's New Jersey Information Center may have additional information about WOR's early history. Bamberger's Department Store (including the radio station) was sold to Macy's around 1929, so you could also try their corporate archives.
> 
> The Newark Museum has a few recordings of science programs that they broadcast from WOR in the 1940s but I don't think they have any information about the station itself.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Jeffrey V. Moy, Archivist
> Morristown & Morris Township Library
> North Jersey History & Genealogy Center
> 
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> Former Ridgewood Ruin [discussion]
> 
> by John Fabiano
> Could anyone provide information about a former abandonded house that stood between Paramus Rd. and E. Saddle River Rd. before the construction of an overpass, which exists today? Someone who grew up in the area remembers only a basement remnant of a large house or mansion in the 1960's that contained two fountains with decorative fish adorning them. Please excuse the lack of detail, but that was all she remembered about this site. She had contacted the local historical society, but they could not help her. 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> John Fabiano
> 
> AllntwnUFHistSoc at aol.com     
> 
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> History of radio station WOR [discussion]
> 
> by Marc Mappen
> 
> Dear H-New-Jersey friends,
> 
> Recently there were several messages sent to H-New-Jersey about pioneering radio station WOR. Due to an oversight on my part these were not sent out to the listserv. I apologize for my error and am now posting the messages.
> 
> Marc Mappen
> 
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> 
> Original question
> 
> This may be a little out of left field, but is there anyone I might contact who is well versed in the history of WOR-AM, particularly its history from the first broadcast from Louis Bamberger's Newark department store in 1922 through the 1930s?
> 
> I ask this because I recently purchased a saxophone with the curious brand of "WOR." I'm fairly well-versed in the history of stencil saxes and this one really piqued my interest. My research identified the real maker and who it was ostensibly made for. However, I can find nothing about a "WOR." I have seen stencil horns (Made by a major manufacturer to order for third party sellers), sold by Dorn & Kirschner, a Newark musical instrument dealer that those of us of a certain age remember as being the source of all things musical when we were in grade school. I've seen mouthpieces for NEMC, the National Educational Music Company, founded in Newark and at one time the largest band instrument rental company in the country.
> 
> That said, from various pieces of information, I believe this WOR sax was made for the in-house orchestra of WOR-AM in the 20s or at the latest, the 1930s. The only proof I have (and it's really conjecture) is that the WOR stencil is made up of lightning bolts with additional lightning bolts surrounding the word "WOR." That lightning bolt font is very similar to the font used by RKO Radio Pictures from 1929-1936 in their opening screen logo. This is the same time period as the sax itself and would seem to fit with the period of WOR's in-house orchestra.
> 
> Any experts out there who might be able to corroborate?
>  
> 
> - Scott D. Peters
> 
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> 
> The person who comes to mind who might assist you with such a question is Steve Dillon at Dillon Music in Woodbridge
> 
> Dillon Music 
> 325 Fulton Street
> Woodbridge NJ 07095
> WWW dillonmusic.com
> 
> -Stacy Roth
> 
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> 
> Try John Gambling, whose grandfather was the original host on WOR when it began broadcasting, at 970 AM The Answer.
> 
> -Barbara La Mort
> 
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> 
> Hi Scott:
> 
> The Newark Public Library's New Jersey Information Center may have additional information about WOR's early history. Bamberger's Department Store (including the radio station) was sold to Macy's around 1929, so you could also try their corporate archives.
> 
> The Newark Museum has a few recordings of science programs that they broadcast from WOR in the 1940s but I don't think they have any information about the station itself. 
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> Jeffrey V. Moy, Archivist
> Morristown & Morris Township Library
> North Jersey History & Genealogy Center
> 
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