[MVMA] Vandalia: I guess the single mesh node at that site.

[Moe]

On 11/28/18 9:46 PM, William Curtice wrote:
> Another approach might be to provide a 5GHz link between DARA and 
> Vandalia tank,  disable the 2.4 link between Ken/AE8I and DARA, and 
> enable Ken to take advantage of the 2.4 connectivity he has with 
> Vandalia tank.

SSID change could be done to route Ken through Vandalia to DARA (via 
5.8)... but it would not stop the 2.4 RF from Vandalia from degrading 
signals received at DARA, i.e. from W8GUC. ...and vice versa for that 
matter.

> That would "open up" the Vandalia/Tipp City area, establish the 
> Vandalia tank as a neighborhood flooding site, and do the same for  
> DARA as a Huber Heights neighborhood flooding site.

If we could neighborhood flood with omnis that could not receive each 
other, that might work... i.e 2.4 omnis with so severe a value of down 
tilt that they wouldn't transmit toward the horizon... or more commonly, 
omnis on different bands.

> That should improve system access for both Reuben and Ken.  It would 
> also set the stage for high speed 5.8 or 3.4 links to neighborhood 
> flooding  nodes in Englewood and Troy/Miami County.
As long as there are two omnis there on the same channel, particularly 
with high-gain/no-downtilt antennas, they will interfere with each 
other, regardless of SSID. It helps, but isn't the cure.
>
> But  again, guess we need to ask .... why should we do it, who would 
> it benefit, and who cares if we do it or not?

The only 2.4 "flooding" that might work without interfering with DARA is 
a single sector panel not aimed at DARA.


>
> Bill
>
> William Curtice
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>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 2:54 PM Moe <ab8xa at arrl.net 
> <mailto:ab8xa at arrl.net> wrote:
>
>     I think when Vandalia and Helke were deployed in hopes of
>     improving links to Tipp City north, it wasn't understood that as
>     long as OLSR had a one hop route direct to DARA those nodes would
>     never be used as two-hops to DARA. All they do is degrade DARA's
>     LQ of W8GUC and AE8I. I have them in AREDN-V SSID but their RF
>     still impacts DARA.
>
>     I can move them to Channel 5 at minimum power. They might even
>     still be able to link. That will keep a foot in the door at those
>     sites (as opposed to shutting them down remotely).
>
>     Let me know if that's what you want to do.
>
>     --
>     Moe
>
>     73 de AB8XA
>
>
>     On 11/28/18 9:19 AM, Chuck Gelm wrote:
>>     On 11/28/2018 08:58 AM, Reuben Meeks wrote:
>>>     Chuck, we can start conversations, but I believe we await some
>>>     one to initiate a topic for discussion. As president of this
>>>     group, please start where the priorities are.
>>
>>>     *I believe we either need to fix Vandalia, or give it up as a
>>>     lost cause. *
>>
>>>     What say you Chuck?
>>>     Best Regards
>>
>>     Hi, Reuben:
>>
>>      The node at the Vandalia water tank is working fine.
>>     I see nothing that needs to be 'fix'ed.
>>
>>     I do see, however, that it serves nobody and, likely, interferes
>>     with the AE8I, W8GUC, W8BI links.
>>
>>     Shall we move the Vandalia-wt node to channel 5 and QRP?
>>
>>     Shall we move the Helke Road node to channel 5 and QRP?
>>
>>     Should we wish to use them in the future, someone could
>>     drive near with a mesh node and a laptop or
>>     visit Helke Road with a laptop
>>     and reconfigure them.
>>
>>     Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
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