[MRIC] Meeting Minutes for 4-21-07
BrettHam at aol.com
BrettHam at aol.com
Thu Apr 26 22:09:13 EDT 2007
Pat,
Al's title in the minutes is correct. The fact that his title is "State
RACES Officer" does not imply that he has any authority over RACES Officers of
other jurisdictions. That's just the title MEMA gave Al. For the 5 years I have
known Al, Hank Black (State Communications Officer), and Warren Campbell
they have repeatedly made it very clear that they do not have authority over
RACES Officers of other jurisdictions. We ROs report directly to our EM, or
his/her designee. I don't think there is any confusion about that.
Regarding any state agency creating their own RACES group, that doesn't make
sense to me. It seems to me that the state would have a RACES group that
would man different positions around the state, in the same way Talbot County
RACES mans different locations around the county. Otherwise you have
competition for resources and multiple plans. But this is outside my scope so I'll let
Al or Hank respond to that.
Brett
In a message dated 4/26/2007 8:02:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wb0egr at comcast.net writes:
I would like to make a VERY significant correction to these minutes:
In the second paragraph, last sentence, Al Fitzsimmons, W3YRS, is
identified as the "...State RACES Officer from MEMA...". This is
incorrect. Al, W3YRS, is the MEMA RACES Officer. There is no State
RACES Officer in Maryland. Any state agency that desires to can form a
RACES group, and the RACES Officer for such a group would be a peer to
us and to the MEMA RO, plus they would not be accountable to MEMA.
Please remember, that in Maryland, ALL ROs are equal. There is no "head
RACES Officer" in Maryland that the other ROs report to. The ROs report
to the Emergency Manager or their designate in the appropriate Emergency
Management Jurisdiction they are located in. Please remember, NIH also
has (or at least had) a RACES group in Bethesda.
73,
Pat Scolla, WB0EGR
Harford County RO & EC
BrettHam at aol.com wrote:
> All ROs,
>
> Congratulations on a very successful MRIC meeting this past Saturday!
> Congratulations also on approving a standardized message form for use
when passing
> messages between RACES jurisdictions. This is a very big accomplishment
for
> just our second meeting. We are off to a very good start. Thanks for all
that
> attended the meeting, despite it being the nicest weather outside so far
this
> year.
>
> I want to personally thank you all once again for all the many
contributions
> that you made; for helping to move the process along and not get bogged
> down; and for keeping the discussion germane and professional. I am very
proud of
> how you all kept the discussion to the subject at hand; showed respect
for
> others; and held a legitimate detailed debate. It was a very fair
discussion
> that continued until no one had anything else to say, before we voted.
There
> were so many significant contributions I won't be able to remember them
all,
> but I would like to say a special thank you to Al FitzSimons (State RACES
> Officer from MEMA) for making the motion and all his research and
accommodations
> during this process.
>
> Al will be directly emailing the approved ICS-213 form to the ROs in the
> next few days using his COMMEX announcement email list. If you do not
receive it
> by Monday, and would like a copy, please contact him.
>
> I would also like to recognize Frank Winner for being so accommodating as
> our host.
>
> In the absence of our MRIC Secretary, I have prepared the minutes of the
> meeting:
>
>
> ---------------- MINUTES ------------------
>
> The following were in attendance of the second MRIC meeting held on April
> 21, 2007 at the Anne Arundel EOC:
>
> ANAR - Frank Winner (RO)
> BACO - Joe Krystoforski (RO)
> CALV - Les Dickey (RO)
> CECI - Dave Gray (RO)
> HARF - Pat Scolla (RO)
> HOWA - Rich Firestone (Assistant RO)
> KENT - Bill Clark
> MEMA - Al FitzSimons (RO)
> MONT - Fred Bader (RO)
> PG - Dan Blasberg (RO)
> STMA - Ray Brown (RO)
> TALB - Brett Hammond (RO)
> WASH - Carlo Belella
> WICO - Joe Woods
>
> The minutes of the previous meeting were discussed. The following
amendments
> were made:
>
> - Change phone number for Joe Woods to 443-523-6061.
> - Under Item 6, change "hose" to "host".
> - Add roll-call votes to the minutes.
>
> The minutes were accepted with amendments without objection. Updated
minutes
> will be distributed.
>
> ------------------- MOTION -----------------
>
> There was a motion by Al FitzSimons, seconded by Frank Winner to remove
the
> following motion from the table:
>
> MOTION: To adopt ICS-213 as presented by Al FitzSimons as the standard
> message form to be used by RACES to send messages between jurisdictions.
>
> The motion was discussed for several hours, after which time several
> amendments were made.
>
> ----------------- AMENDMENT ----------------
> There was a motion to amend made by Pat Scolla, seconded by Joe
Krystoforski:
>
> AMENDMENT: Change the date and time field of the proposed ICS-213 to
> yyyymmdd and hhmmss.
>
> ROLL-CALL VOTE:
>
> YES - ANAR - Frank Winner (RO)
> YES - BACO - Joe Krystoforski (RO)
> YES - CALV - Les Dickey (RO)
> YES - CECI - Dave Gray (RO)
> YES - HARF - Pat Scolla (RO)
> YES - HOWA - Rich Firestone (Assistant RO)
> YES - KENT - Bill Clark
> YES - MEMA - Al FitzSimons (RO)
> YES - MONT - Fred Bader (RO)
> YES - PG - Dan Blasberg (RO)
> YES - STMA - Ray Brown (RO)
> YES - TALB - Brett Hammond (RO)
> YES - WASH - Carlo Belella
> YES - WICO - Joe Woods
>
> The amendment passed unanimously.
>
> ----------------- AMENDMENT ----------------
> There was a motion to amend made by Pat Scolla, seconded by Joe
Krystoforski:
>
> AMENDMENT: Remove the message number field from the proposed ICS-213 form.
>
> There was some discussion about using the time/date as a means of uniquely
> identifying a message.
>
> ROLL-CALL VOTE:
>
> YES - ANAR - Frank Winner (RO)
> YES - BACO - Joe Krystoforski (RO)
> YES - CALV - Les Dickey (RO)
> NO - CECI - Dave Gray (RO)
> YES - HARF - Pat Scolla (RO)
> YES - HOWA - Rich Firestone (Assistant RO)
> YES - KENT - Bill Clark
> YES - MEMA - Al FitzSimons (RO)
> YES - MONT - Fred Bader (RO)
> YES - PG - Dan Blasberg (RO)
> YES - STMA - Ray Brown (RO)
> YES - TALB - Brett Hammond (RO)
> NO - WASH - Carlo Belella
> YES - WICO - Joe Woods
>
> The amendment passed 12 to 2.
>
> ----------------- AMENDMENT ----------------
> There was a motion to amend made by Dan Blasberg, seconded by Frank
Winner:
>
> AMENDMENT: To remove the message boxes from the proposed ICS-213.
>
> ROLL-CALL VOTE:
>
> YES - ANAR - Frank Winner (RO)
> YES - BACO - Joe Krystoforski (RO)
> YES - CALV - Les Dickey (RO)
> YES - CECI - Dave Gray (RO)
> YES - HARF - Pat Scolla (RO)
> YES - HOWA - Rich Firestone (Assistant RO)
> YES - KENT - Bill Clark
> YES - MEMA - Al FitzSimons (RO)
> YES - MONT - Fred Bader (RO)
> YES - PG - Dan Blasberg (RO)
> YES - STMA - Ray Brown (RO)
> YES - TALB - Brett Hammond (RO)
> YES - WASH - Carlo Belella
> YES - WICO - Joe Woods
>
> The amendment passed unanimously.
>
> ---------------- MOTION --------------
>
> There were no more motions to amend the motion on the floor. There was no
> more discussion, so a roll-call vote was taken on motion on the floor:
>
> MOTION: To adopt ICS-213 as presented by Al FitzSimons [and amended above]
> as the standard message form to be used by RACES to send messages between
> jurisdictions.
>
> ROLL-CALL VOTE:
>
> YES - ANAR - Frank Winner (RO)
> YES - BACO - Joe Krystoforski (RO)
> NO - CALV - Les Dickey (RO)
> YES - CECI - Dave Gray (RO)
> YES - HARF - Pat Scolla (RO)
> YES - HOWA - Rich Firestone (Assistant RO)
> YES - KENT - Bill Clark
> YES - MEMA - Al FitzSimons (RO)
> YES - MONT - Fred Bader (RO)
> YES - PG - Dan Blasberg (RO)
> YES - STMA - Ray Brown (RO)
> YES - TALB - Brett Hammond (RO)
> YES - WASH - Carlo Belella
> YES - WICO - Joe Woods
>
> The motion passed 13 to 1.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Ed (AA3X) gave a presentation on automating ICS-213 and other forms using
a
> PC program he developed and made available to all.
>
> Al FitzSimons gave an update on the state drill scheduled for April 26.
>
> Terry Sapp (DHMH) gave an update on the Pandemic drill scheduled for
August.
> There is not any specific participation of RACES requested, but each
> jurisdiction is welcome to participate per their EM.
>
> The list of ROs was updated and approved by unanimous consent, without
> objection. An updated list will be distributed in a subsequent email.
>
> The list of Maryland RACES Frequencies was updated and approved by
unanimous
> consent, without objection. The updated list will be sent in a subsequent
> email.
>
> There was a motion by Dan Blasberg to provide DHMH with our complete list
of
> Maryland RACES Frequencies so all our frequencies could be programmed
into
> all the DHMH ready-kits. The motion passed by unanimous consent, without
> objection.
>
> Rich Firestone talked briefly about the web site he and Dave Prestel were
> preparing to develop. There was general consensus that they should go
ahead and
> start to develop it, with the understanding MRIC has no budget.
>
> Dan Blasberg presented a list of all HF frequencies that were available
for
> RACES under the old rules. There was general consensus he should progress
with
> more detailed recommendations for HF frequencies for state-wide HF net(s)
> using these frequencies as a starting point. The discussion will be
continued
> on the email reflector this summer, with the objective of running some
trial
> nets during the fall COMMEX prior to our November MRIC meeting, so we can
> vote on this in November.
>
> Pat Scolla and Joe Krystoforski gave a presentation on RACES Recruitment,
Tr
> aining and Retention.
>
> Frank Winner gave us a tour of the AA EOC.
>
> There was discussion on agenda items for the next meeting. The consensus
was
> to focus on finalizing HF frequencies for state-wide nets so we could vote
> in November. There was also consensus to make digital communications our
next
> priority, and begin discussions on standardizing a digital mode for
state-wide
> RACES communications at our next meeting.
>
> The following people tentatively agreed to look into making presentations
at
> our November meeting:
>
> Dan Blasberg - HF nets
> Joe Krystoforski - MT63
> Associate of Brett Hammond - APRS packet
> Associate of Dan Blasberg- WinLink
> Associate of Dan Blasberg - ATV
> Associate of Joe Krystoforski - DSTAR
>
> The next MRIC meeting is scheduled for November 10, 2007 at the Howard
> County EOC from 10:30 until 15:00. The 2008 MRIC meeting schedule will be
> discussed at that time.
>
> The meeting was adjourned at 13:05.
>
> Brett Hammond
> Chairman, MRIC
>
>
>
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