[MRIC] ICS 123 Comments from Washington County RACES and
Emergency Manaager
BrettHam at aol.com
BrettHam at aol.com
Thu Apr 5 09:25:09 EDT 2007
Bob,
Thank you for your comments. You obviously spent a lot of time on this issue
and your effort is very much appreciated. You set a good example for the
rest of us. Thank you also for providing an example of what you had in mind. A
picture is worth a thousand words. You have done a very professional job!
Conversely, we still have not heard from most jurisdictions, and there are
only 2 weeks left before our next MRIC meeting. If we do not approve something
in this next meeting, it will not be available for our EMs to approve in
May, and our next MRIC meeting is not until November which makes it unlikely we
will have an agreement this year. I STRONGLY encourage all other ROs to
please provide their positions as Bob did, immediately, so we can spend the next
two weeks resolving our differences. We may need to go back to our EMs several
times before we reach consensus. It has been 5 or 6 weeks since Al presented
his proposed form, and we still have not heard from 90% of you. Please do not
wait until the week before we meet to raise your concerns. If you do, you
will derail our efforts. Take Bob's form, and Al's form and sit down with your
EM and get their input this week. Also, you need to know how far they are
willing to go to reach a compromise in the event most other jurisdictions prefer
the other form.
That said, my EM and RACES Operators have taken the opposite position as
Washington County. We do not claim to have a monopoly on being right, so let's
exchange some ideas and try to reach consensus.
Our EM wants us to use the same ICS-213 form that they will be using in the
EOC and elsewhere. They also want it to very closely resemble the national
standard ICS-213 form, which is extremely simple. First responders coming in
from other areas will be familiar with the standard ICS-213. No offense
intended, but I think your proposed form varies enough from the standard, that it
falls outside the guidelines to be called an ICS-213. It is much closer in
format to a radiogram. If that is what we all agree to use between jurisdictions,
I believe we can do that, but we should call it something other than
ICS-213.
One of the objections that Talbot County has to using a word count, is that
it adds a lot of complexity and rules as to how the word count is calculated.
As radio operators, we know a lot of that already (use xray as period, count
punctuation, acronyms, etc. as a word), but the rest of the EOC and
emergency personnel are not aware of separating words, etc., so they will not
understand the form you propose. They will end up passing a message to us on a
standard ICS-213, then we will have to copy it onto the radiogram-type form that
you propose with words separated, etc.
There is a big, big push in emergency management to keep things simple,
streamlined, and to use plain English to avoid confusion during an emergency.
Hence, the simplicity of the standard ICS-213. It applies the lessons learned
from major emergencies in the past.
To this end, our EM wants us to use the same form everyone else in the EOC
will use. Using carbons with the format Al proposed, the person in the EOC
that originated the message would keep the bottom carbon copy and pass the rest
to RACES. After sending, RACES would keep the remaining copies in a pile of
sent messages. Since the message number is incremented, the pile of messages
sent will automatically end up being in numerical order (or very close to it if
you have several operators), so locating a sent message will be very quick.
If a reply comes in (are you ready to copy REPLY to message 25?), the
appropriate form is located, the reply is copied (I'm ready to copy) and RACES
keeps the bottom copy and passes the last (top) copy to the EOC so they can see
the reply.
While this procedure is purely up to each jurisdiction, it does have an
impact on the format of the form. You can copy replies onto a different sheet if
you like in Washington County, but I cannot use my procedure unless the
approved form contains a reply section. So I suggest we keep the reply section,
and leave it up to the jurisdiction whether or not they use it. I don't think
there is much disagreement here.
The point of this long explanation, is that if RACES uses a different form
than the rest of the EOC, then we cannot use the carbon copy procedure I
mention above, where every link in the message handling gets to keep a copy so it
can be traced back in the (very likely) event that a message gets lost.
Instead, what we will have to do in RACES is copy the text from the original
ICS-213, onto the form you propose before sending it. Then we need to correlate
the two forms. If a reply comes in, I suppose we would copy onto the radiogram
to check word count, then copy onto the original ICS-213 to hand off to the
EOC. Talbot County believes that this additional processing, introduces more
errors than the radiogram-type format and word count will correct, and
significantly reduces throughput speed. It would probably be faster and catch more
errors to send every message twice than to use a word count and have to copy
onto a second form.
I absolutely agree that accuracy is of prime importance. If the message is
not accurate, we are out of business. Initially I was very much against
eliminating the word count (and necessary radiogram type format in order to be able
to calculate a word count), but I have been convinced that keeping it simple
will decrease the likelihood of errors in the first place. Especially since
we are dealing with volunteers, and some only practice sending/receiving a
few times a year. For the hams on the weekly nets, radiograms are better, but to
RACES embedded in emergency operations, with so much other stuff they need
to learn, I now believe using the standard ICS-213 form is better. So far, in
the past few drills, I have been surprised how accurate we have been without
a word count.
I will discuss your proposal with my EM when he gets back from the Hurricane
conference. In the mean-time, can you please discuss our position with yours?
Thanks again for your effort and I hope we can reach consensus. I really do
appreciate your hard work. This is exactly the kind of dialog I was hoping we
would have.
By they way everyone, I got a new call-sign from the FCC this week: K3TAL.
Please update your records.
Brett Hammond
Talbot County RACES Officer
Chairman, MRIC
In a message dated 4/2/2007 9:17:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rjlong61 at myactv.net writes:
I have met with the Washington County Emergency Manager. In fact there
were a number of RACES operators present at this meeting. The results
of the meeting follow.
1. We see that the ICS-213 will be the basis for communications as has
been stated by other jurisdictions
2. We see the value of a preamble in both the main message and the
reply. It is not unlikely that in replying the new message may carry
information that could have a different priority than the original message.
3. We feel that it is most important that our messages be relayed in a
expedient and precise manner. To omit the word count in either the
original message or reply can allow for avoidable errors. To speed up
the handling of the messages and facilitate the correction of omission
the form should require a limited number of words on a line. It is
impracticable to try to count the number of words in a free form
message.would be an extremely difficult task and would be very time
consuming. We suggest 5 to 10 words per line.Other communications
systems have a tape recorded backup that allows for a replay if
necessary. We do not have that luxury we MUST get it right on the 1st
effort.
The following comments were also made.
1. When receiving a reply, it should be copied on a fresh sheet, then
matched up with the original after the message is accepted. In a real
time event searching for the original message and holding up the
transmission of the message would just slow things down.
2. If a message reply is not to have its own number then it should
have the a suffix added to the message number such as 243R to identify
it as belonging to message number 243.
We have heard that the count just slows thing down, To omit that says
that accuracy in traffic handling is a luxury we cannot afford, close
is good enough. We say, no the passing of a carbon copy of the message
is what our officials deserve. Close says errors are acceptable. Not
when our communities welfare is on the line.
Before I was willing to send this we needed to develop a message form
prototype. The message form might look something like -
http://www.qsl.net/kd3jk/ics_213_draft.xls
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