[MRCG] Net QRM

[Tim]

As we know, one way to beat this problem is with antennas designed for NVIS
(which includes frequency and time of day..):  Horizontal wires or
preferably horizontal dipoles about 30-40' up on 80 meters.  They radiate
AND receive well straight up and down for local, inside a few hundred miles
very well, as for MRCG nets.  Maybe even more important, they also have
very low gain to/from signals arriving at low angles from very distant
stations like that SSB stuff arriving as the band "goes long"...They won't
hear much from my NVIS antenna signals either.  Win-Win.  Easy!  Verticals
or diagonal slant-wires are a problem for regional contacts, supports
availability of course an issue...

Putting a half-wave wire on the ground directly under a dipole can improve
performance considerably if your local soil is very dry/non-conductive.
It's the in-phase ground-bounce adding to the antenna radiation that
produces the results...A 2 element Yagi pointed straight up...

73 and good luck in the contest...!
DE N6CC

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 6:17 AM Steve <zarco at sonic.net> wrote:

> Even though I've just been listening so far, 3:30 is fine but
> suspect there will always be a problem with SSB interference.
> There are serious attitude issues involved.
> They were very strong up here in Santa Rosa but heard everyone
> on my R-388. Great group and hope to join in soon.
> Steve W6SSP
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Miller via MRCG" <mrcg at mailman.qth.net>
> To: "West Coast Military Radio Collectors Group" <mrcg at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 6:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [MRCG] Net QRM
>
>
> > They are aware the frequency is occupied and choosing to operate anyway.
> > Their gear is much better suited to dealing with our signals Im sure. So
> > presence on the frequency is not the issue.
> >
> > Sent from my 1944 Westinghouse TBM
> >
> >> On Nov 23, 2019, at 6:10 PM, Mark J. Blair <nf6x at nf6x.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 23, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Andy Miller <amillertkx at aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Its clear that the SSB folks are going to operate on or about our
> >>> frequency regardless of the fact that it is occupied. So how does the
> >>> group feel about starting at 3:30? This would give us more QRM free
> time
> >>> and hopefully still enjoy the good propagation.
> >>>
> >>> I dont like having to change our net time because of these folks but
> the
> >>> qrm is intolerable for many of us.
> >>
> >> Do the SSB folks even know we're there, or are the AM and SSB teams
> both
> >> running into each other's ongoing QSOs when the band opens up along the
> >> east-west path?
> >>
> >> On tonight's net, I think it was the band going long that cut me out,
> not
> >> the QRM. I didn't hear anything for 10 minutes or so after my turn, so
> I
> >> turned off the radio.
> >>
> >> I'm willing to start at 15:30. We could move the official start time,
> or
> >> we could simply pre-game for a half hour before official net time.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark J. Blair <nf6x at nf6x.net>
> >> http://www.nf6x.net/
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