[MRCA] Fwd: Navajo Code Talkers - what they actually said!

[Tim]

Hi Rob - Yes, across the entire war effort from what I've read; the
Navajo's were one of the 14.
The Choctaw language was also used in WWI for the same purposes...  (over
voice radio?  Or more likely land line telephones?  I dunno much about WWI
radiotelephone usage...)

Thanks,,Tim
N6CC

On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 2:58 AM Rob Flory <farmer.rob.flory at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Tim, thanks for the link to the dictionary.
> They might be right about the TBY.  Haha.
> When you say there were 14 different tribes that contributed to the
> effort, I believe you meant the war effort, not the Navajo code.  I'm
> offering that as a clarification lest others take the wrong meaning.
> RF
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:35 PM Tim <timsamm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rob - Yes, that too...Here is at least a variant of the dictionary the
>> Navajo's used.  With a politically-incorrect cartoon cover..(Poor TBY!)
>>
>>
>> https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/n/navajo-code-talker-dictionary.html
>> (there is a modern "shorthand" phrase/item list with daily-changing
>> symbols still in use today..- keeps messages short)
>>
>> Interesting that there were 14 different "tribes" who contributed to the
>> effort - and presumably used 14 different languages.  Surely they were used
>> in like "pairs" within given large organizations to get around that
>> problem.  Eg:  Comanches served with the 4th Signal Company, 4th Infantry
>> Division at Normandy....  Yep, I need to get Nez's book and get smart...
>> Thanks!
>> Tim
>> N6CC
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 11:49 PM Rob Flory <farmer.rob.flory at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> The code was a little more sophisticated and efficient than the phonetic
>>> method you describe, which was used for names and for words not covered in
>>> the code.
>>>
>>> There were shorthand names for things like rank, different kinds of
>>> ships, aircraft, weapons, etc.
>>>
>>> I recommend the book Code Talker by Chester Nez, among others.
>>>
>>> RF
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 1:15 PM Tim <timsamm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Rob!  I am doing a display on the Code Talkers at our local
>>>> Veterans Memorial Building on Veterans Day 2021.  I will certainly use this
>>>> video along with representative equipment.  I had not seen it before...  So
>>>> the messages were generally sent in Navaho "phonetics", letter by letter
>>>> like Able, Baker, Charlie etc.  Except their words did not start with the
>>>> English sound of that particular letter.  Simple, effective...
>>>> Did anyone else notice the clip of the Marine talking on the TCS in the
>>>> MZ Jeep had the scene reversed (left for right) ?
>>>> Thanks again..
>>>> Tim
>>>> N6CC
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 6:17 AM ROBERT FORTE <rvforte at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FYI, ROB
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>>>>> *From: *"snelake1 at aol.com" <snelake1 at aol.com>
>>>>> *Subject: **Navajo Code Talkers - what they actually said!*
>>>>> *Date: *July 15, 2021 at 7:10:08 AM EDT
>>>>> *Reply-To: *"snelake1 at aol.com" <snelake1 at aol.com>
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