[MRCA] Working on the R-392
David Olean
k1whs at metrocast.net
Wed Jan 15 13:39:13 EST 2020
Hello again!
I have been restoring a few Collins R-392 receivers. The first two units
were not much trouble. All required tweaking the PTO and alignments. One
had a difficult problem that was traced to a gear cutting into the main
harness and breaking wires! R-392 number three, though, has taxed my
brain to the point where I have totally confused myself and have turned
into a babbling idiot, banging my head against the wall and drooling
uncontrollably.
The basic problem was an inoperative AGC system. I also was hearing some
crackling noise coming from the RF amplifier circuits that indicated a
failing part somewhere in the RF signal chain. This particular unit was
not employing 12AU7s, in V601 and V-602, but had small diodes stuck in
the tube sockets instead. At one point, I had the thing working, but it
was short lived. So my problem was intermittent. Measuring negative AGC
voltages at J-614 (the black test point) showed very little change
between weak or strong signals. strong AM BC stations sounded very
distorted. I looked around the AGC amplifier and saw that it was
amplifying just fine. I saw no leaky caps in the AGC buss that might
bring down the AGC levels. Being a closed loop system, it was difficult
to figure out where the problem was. I had better luck poking around
trying to ferret out the intermittent problem. At one point I suspected
the third IF stage. I dug into the IF strip and checked each capacitor.
They were all Sprague Vitamin-Q hermetically sealed caps. None of them
checked bad. I saw one cap that indicated it had some leakage. When I
removed it and tested it again, it checked fine. I replaced it anyway.
My capacitor checker is new to me and cost $12. I am not sure that I
trust it. It does test for ESR. I reverted to my old method of applying
a variable high voltage to one lead and measuring any DC feedthru on the
other lead with my Fluke high impedance DVM. All the Vitamin-Qs had
absolutely no leakage.
One area to suspect would be the coupling caps from the plate of the AGC
amplifier, C-630 and C-632 that connect to the rectifiers. They were
both fine. Another suspect cap would be C-638 in the cathode side of
the two AGC rectifiers. I had the correct voltages here depending on
whether I used AGC ON or AGC OFF settings: 5 volts, or 25 volts on the
diodes, so I know the cap was not shorted, but I placed another 0.01 cap
across it and the AGC voltage climbed a bit. Maybe it had lost its value
and was not directing the RF signal to ground? I removed the part. It
checked fine. (?) A new capacitor there helped slightly.
I also had a strange symptom going on with the RF level meter. As I
would tune the KC dial through a strong signal, the meter would climb
very high, then drop down as the signal was centered in the passband. It
would climb again as I continued and the signal started to exit the
passband. I would see a corresponding change to the AGC voltage in step
with this. For the life of me, I could not imagine what was going on to
cause this. At this point I was drooling and banging my head against
the nearest hard surface. I also had a small pile of perfectly good
Vitamin-Q caps on my bench.
At some point, as previously mentioned, I noticed some intermittent but
horrendous noise appearing in the signal path. It was being generated
inside the radio. It sounded like a noisy capacitor. I unplugged the IF
input BNC connector and the noise went away. It was definitely in the RF
stages. After a short while, the noises stopped. It was only then that
I noticed that the AGC problem and the RF noise was only on one band! I
changed bands from 1-2 MHz and went up to 5 MHz and listened to WTTW on
5.085. Lo and behold the audio was not distorted and the intermittent
internal noise was gone too. Interestingly, I was seeing similar
sensitivities and meter levels on both bands. Receiver gain had not
changed much. Further checking on 0.500-to 1.000 MHz also showed no
noise, so my noise problem is confined to just the 1-2 MHz band coils.
For some reason this is also affecting the AGC just on that band. AGC
voltages at J-614 are much higher on all other bands than I am seeing on
1-2 MHz.
I immediately stopped drooling and banging my head against hard
objects. Now I know where to look! I can isolate the offending part by
using the E test points and a sensitive O-scope. I celebrated my good
fortune and set things aside for awhile.
Incidentally, I wanted to paint my three cases with a nice gloss OD
color as they were a bit scratched up and worn. One was really bad.
Being a member of the US Army for a few years, I was aware of the army
culture. One phrase often heard was..." If it moves, salute it! If it
does not move, paint it!" This bad R-392 case had been painted multiple
times with so many different OD hues that it was a mess. The paint was
just glommed on and very thick. I ended up stripping it and sanding it
down to bare aluminum. I primed it with some gray primer and let it sit
for a week. Then I used my new HVLP paint sprayer system and applied
some special formula Sherwin Williams paint. The following is the
formula that I ended up with. It is still a bit dark and needs to be
lightened up to look a bit more green.
Sherwin Williams INT EXT Architectural oil based. Gloss
Olive Green Equipment
BAC Colorant 32 OZ
W1 White 5
B1 Black 59
R2 Maroon 3
Y3 Deep Gold 18
Y1 Yellow 7
I really am liking the R-392. It is very sensitive and makes a great AM
BC radio. I can hear a CW beatnote with a -140 dBm input signal!
I fixed up the last of the three 392 PTOs. I had built a PTO test
fixture for the 75A4 and 51J4 type PTOs. It has a nice vernier dial
with gear reduction so that I can measure the linearity quite easily. I
did rework my 51J and 75A4 PTOs and it worked just fine. had to modify
my test fixture again when I started working on R-390s and R-390As. The
mounting arrangement was different and I needed two DC voltages. Then I
got to the R-392. Yikes! It had a very weird mounting arrangement. Look
Ma, no screws at all! There was no easy way to mount it in my fixture,
so I winged it by removing the PTO from the radio, and placing a black
dot on the oldham coupler with a small magic marker. Then I would crank
it around for ten turns and see how close or far off I was. Of course
there was all sorts of parallax in trying to line up the black dots. I
would sit there and squint and guess at how well things were tracking.
It was amazing that I got them pretty close and within about 300 Hz in
all three cases. I also bought a $5 PTO on E Pay from K1ANX just to play
with. It was advertised as being DOA, but repairable. The RF cables
were cut on it, but I was surprised to see that it actually worked when
I applied voltage to it. I was also able to reset the end points so it
is within 300 Hz as well. So now I have a spare!
Anyway, I am sure there are many stories about screwed up AGC circuits
in the R-392. I am also looking for a carrier meter. I see plenty of
R-390 VU meters on EBay and elsewhere, , but never the 17 ohm 1 ma
carrier meter. I sure could use one on one of the R-392s.
73
Dave K1WHS
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