[MRCA] Tadiran RT/PRC-601 Help

Wammes Witkop wammes at greenradios.com
Sun Jul 21 04:13:50 EDT 2019


Hi Mark,

One of those places with very little information, on the internet, might 
have been my site:

http://greenradios.com/Radios/Israeli/Tadiran/Prc_604.htm

Back then, when I bought these radio's some 25 years ago, I did search 
high and low as well and nothing popped up. Some five years later I got 
an e-mail from an Israeli engineer who had been involved in the 
development of these radio's, but at the time I was too busy with my 
firm to find the time to really follow up on that lead. And the e-mail 
is long gone, dissolved in some HD crash.

If you would find more info, please share it so I might include it in my 
website. Good luck hunting!

Grtz, Wammes Witkop

Op 21-7-2019 om 01:07 schreef MilComm Guy:
> The seller is going to try and find me some crystals, we will see, 
> although the auction stated it was coming from FL it actually shipped 
> from Caracas Venezuela, some research on this radio model shows some 
> other units were sold from the same location some time ago.  I have no 
> documentation for the radio nor can I find any.  The only information 
> I have is what I found on the internet which was very little. 
> Hopefully I can obtain an original crystal and determine from it's 
> markings what it is or if the information I have is correct.  Thank 
> you for your input.
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:47 PM J Mcvey via MRCA <mrca at mailman.qth.net 
> <mailto:mrca at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>
>     Never tried that , but probably won't  work because the feed back
>     is designed for a xtal.
>     the service manual should detail how the oscillator circuit works.
>     On Saturday, July 20, 2019, 1:19:00 PM EDT, Peter Gottlieb
>     <kb2vtl at gmail.com <mailto:kb2vtl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     Can you feed a sig gen in at that freq to check?
>
>
>     On 7/20/2019 1:17 PM, J Mcvey via MRCA wrote:
>     > oops i meant 72.4/5 =14.48
>     >
>     > On Saturday, July 20, 2019, 1:13:13 PM EDT, J Mcvey via MRCA
>     > <mrca at mailman.qth.net <mailto:mrca at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > I'm a bit perplexed by that chart and the use of a 5th overtone
>     xtal.
>     > Are you sure they are using 5th overtone?
>     > The overtone implies that it is using a frequency multiplier
>     circuit rather
>     > than the fundamental frequency.
>     > That means that the FUNDAMENTAL frequency would be 74.5/5 =14.9
>     MHZ but the
>     > 5th harmonic is used for the oscillator output,
>     >
>     > If I were you, I'd do a little more research to be sure about
>     what you need.
>     >
>     > On Saturday, July 20, 2019, 12:51:11 PM EDT, Mkdorney via MRCA
>     > <mrca at mailman.qth.net <mailto:mrca at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > Crystal holders have so many different nomenclatures depending
>     on the radio,
>     > crystal manufacturer etc. Are those the same crystals used on a
>     CPRC-26 ?
>     >  Google your crystal nomenclature and see what pops up. Get
>     crystals that will
>     > allow the radio to function and also allow for legal operation.
>     >
>     > I would not recommend harassing a military base with any type of
>     radio
>     > traffic. They tend to get rather upset about that, and use their
>     DF gear to
>     > find you, resulting in a substantial fine and maybe confiscation
>     of your
>     > radio. ( maybe that explains the missing crystals).
>     >
>     >
>     > Mark
>     > WW2RDO
>     >
>     > “In matters of style, float with the current. In matters of
>     Principle, stand
>     > like a rock. “.   -   Thomas Jefferson
>     >
>     > Sent from my iPhone
>     >
>     > On Jul 20, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org
>     <mailto:N1XBM at amsat.org>
>     > <mailto:N1XBM at amsat.org <mailto:N1XBM at amsat.org>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> But ...but..., I saw that auction and the seller specifically
>     stated he
>     >> harraresd the local military base with it...
>     >>
>     >> N1XBM
>     >> Apparare Scientor
>     >> Paratus Communicare
>     >> www.n1xbm.com <http://www.n1xbm.com> <http://www.n1xbm.com>
>     >>
>     >> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 10:13 MilComm Guy <m38inmaine at gmail.com
>     <mailto:m38inmaine at gmail.com>
>     >> <mailto:m38inmaine at gmail.com <mailto:m38inmaine at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>    So I purchased this neat little squad radio labeled RT-601
>     47-57 Mhz to
>     >>    use on 51Mhz, the seller stated it worked.  So it arrived
>     today and I
>     >>    opened up the cover where the crystals(up to six)are and
>     they are all
>     >>    gone.  I have to doubt it was working, I figured I would
>     need to purchase
>     >>    a new crystal any way, just disappointed.
>     >>    So does any one here have one of these up and running ? 
>     Next big
>     >>    question is where can I order a crystal for it?  According
>     to the single
>     >>    source I found it uses a CR-83/U crystal, a chart I found
>     says the
>     >>    CR-83/U is a 5th overtone in a HC-50/U enclosure.  The chart
>     inside the
>     >>    radio says to add +21.4, so if I order a crystal I want the
>     crystal
>     >>    frequency 72.4Mhz ?
>     >>    <DSCN5141.JPG>
>     >>    <DSCN5142.JPG>
>     >>    <DSCN5143.JPG>
>     >>    I am in the process of making a battery adapter, it uses a
>     battery much
>     >>    like the PRC-90 but larger diameter.
>     >>
>     >>    Thank you
>     >>    Mark
>     >>    K1HF
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