[MRCA] Additional thought on Dayton Hamvention

Fri Feb 15 21:21:53 EST 2019

Also the radio connection box is not installed yet.  
And I don’t have a license yet.  I’m just now trying to cross over or merge from a vehicle owner to a vehicle owner that knows radios.  Somewhere on Facebook I saw you group mentioned.  
Thank you again for allowing me in.  Dave

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> On Feb 15, 2019, at 19:57, Mkdorney <mkdorney at aol.com> wrote:
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> Hello David,
>        First of all, welcome to the group. If I may be so bold to ask, what branch of the Army. I was an O-3, 13E5H. 
> 
>       What rigs do you have in the WC ?   I don’t think I’d add any more. The’d be kind of like crew served weapons in that if the vehicle was destroyed, the unit would loose 3 radios. I am torn in adding even a second radio to mine. I can add either a BC-659-B or a VRC-3 (BC 1000 with a PP-114 power supply. My PP-114 is dated 1945 ). I’m not sure I want to add either.  Where did you put the radio connection box - in the front passenger side tool box ( factory mount ) or behind the driver on the front wall of the troop compartment (field mount)?  
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> What level Amateur ticket do you hold?  General or Extra?
> 
> 73
> Mark
> WW2RDO
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>> On Feb 15, 2019, at 8:32 PM, David Craine <david.r.craine at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi guys, I’m new here and this is my first post.  I have a 1943 Dodge WC52 and I have 2-3 radios from WWII mounted in the back.  I found your group and I hope I can learn from you all and I agree with Mark.  At the 2018 MVPA Convention I went straight to the tables with military radios and there weren’t many!  I’m hoping we can do more events together.  I’m in a MVPA club in Topeka Kansas, I live in Lawrence kansas.  
>> I’m 53 year old retired Colonel and now work for the VA.  
>> Dave
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>>> On Feb 15, 2019, at 16:16, Mkdorney via MRCA <mrca at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
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>>> There are 4 letters I would recommend all Hams with an interest in military Radio technology  memorize:  MVPA.  It stands for the Military Vehicle Preservation Association. Their International convention this year is in August in York, PA. Those in the Northeast know that the MRCA joins the local chapter of the MVPA in Gilbert PA every year for their show. That could be replicated across the country if Hams who have Military radio gear got together with local MVPA organizations. There are even some recruiting possibilities at these shows as many of these vehicle owners have old, working and non working radios and really don’t know where to turn to in order to get licensed and get there stuff fixed. And you don’t need to worry so much about your “old stuff” being pushed into a corner, because their stuff is also the old stuff. 
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>>> As far as the ARRL is concerned, Military radio collectors and operators have been the bastard stepchildren for some time now, and that really doesn’t look to be changing any time soon. The ARRL has become way too involved with companies like Yaesu and the like, especially monetarily, to hope for any change on their part. In that respect, the ARRL has become nothing more than a trade group for these manufacturers. The only possible way that will ever change as far as events like Dayton are concerned is if Military radio collectors demand that change. And the big money manufacturers will fight tooth and nail before they allow that to happen. 
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>>> Mark
>>> WW2RDO
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>>>> On Feb 15, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu> wrote:
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>>>> If you look at the amount of promotion that’s been going on  in QST and how packed the dealer and sales pavilions are I have to wonder if maybe the flea market aspect of the Hamvention is being pushed off to the side and being left to wither and die? Or is it that the entire concept of used equipment, homebuilt and playing around with old radios is itself died out?
>>>> Pure speculation on my part but is there a effort to make the Hamvention into a convention where they just talk and show the newest and latest technology and the hell with all that old junk and the people who want to mess with it? Looking at the ARRL it appears that’s their main interest is in pushing you to go out and buy the newest whatever and that if you’re not on the cutting edge or using the newest digital mode you not a complete Ham.
>>>> I work in a technical field and have to deal with installing the latest software, operating systems and hardware every day and the last thing I want to do when I am not at work is have to download stuff and resolve set up issues, so I prefer to work with the technology of the past where you can get in, make changes and work with things at a slower pace. After all it is a hobby and not a business. So that’s the question is Hamvention evolving into something more along the lines of a boat show, where everything is about the newest and most expensive or will it still reflect whatever the general state of the hobby is?
>>>> And what is the general state of the hobby? Maybe this is the future and people like me that are getting older and prefer to waste time on technology from our past just need to get out of the way for the Hams of the future? Although most of the people I know, see at the fest and have talked with are just as old if not older then I am so where are all these Hams of the future? Maybe by getting rid of us old buzzard Hams that will entice theses young Hams out to the events? Yet another reason to kill off the flea market.
>>>>  
>>>> Have to remember your Bell “When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us” Somehow always thought that was a bible quote but apparently not. Maybe if Hamvention is failing in my expatiations or costing too much it is time to make this the last trip, but other regional sales like Frostfest are doing great and maybe look to a future of more online and local stuff.
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>>>> Collecting and using military technology in some ways is a smaller subset then the larger Vintage Ham radio community is, but it’s what I want to do and once you get into the military collectors community you soon discover the weapon, vehicle and many other collectors that have a thriving community that somehow survives without having a national organization that’s beating the drum for everyone to go out and buy or constantly move forward. Perhaps the nearest analog would be the reenactors and what they are doing although I don’t consider myself a reenactor, but they are from what I see a growing group and would assume they have some sort of organization and publications and would assume that a large part of it involves advertising and trying to get there members to go out and buy things.
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>>>> It all circles back to Dayton and what the future is there. Perhaps it’s my expectations that have changed and not the Hamvention at all? Or maybe it’s a combination of the two? Or maybe it’s just that it’s a Friday and Friday morning are somewhat slow here at work and it’s an opportunity to take time out and write about these things and try to get an idea what others think.
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>>>> Ray F/KA3EKH
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