[MRCA] [MMRCG] Universal Radio frequencies for Vintage Vehicle collectors

Fri May 25 11:36:10 EDT 2018

It has be legal to use globally.  Enforcement varies around the world, as does the severity of punishment. I'm sure there is a lot of stuff globally that isn't legal to operate in their specific localities.  An unmodified BC-1000 here in the US is an example. The fact that some radio operated on any particular frequency during World War Two, or Korea, or Vietnam really doesn't matter.  What matters is if the radio that can operate on common frequencies that won't get the licensed operator in trouble.  If somebody is dumb enough to operate unlicensed, they deserve what they get. 

To get an idea of what works globally, the International Amateur Radio Union ( IARU ) web site is the place to go.  You can see a list of common band privileges in all three IARU regions on their web site. 

We can leave organizations who's primary interest is not necessarily Amateur Radio operations, like the Military Vehicle Preservation Association ( MVPA ), wandering in the dark about where to go to get information about what is a facet of their interests, and perhaps in the process get a few more licensed operators in the process, or we could sit on our backsides and miss out on what could be a whole new source of members not only to the Ham radio community, but also to organizations like ours who are interested in military radio.  I don't know about anybody else, but I choose the former.

Mark D.
WW2RDO

In a message dated 5/25/2018 11:06:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu writes:

 It’s a wild assumption but I am going to guess that 49 MHz non licensed junk was common all over the world. That’s just pure speculation on my part with no evidence to back it up. But if that’s the case 49.90 may be a magic number.

Ray F/KA3EKH

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Subject: Re: [MRCA] [MMRCG] Universal Radio frequencies for Vintage Vehicle collectors

The idea is to get frequencies that can be used globally, so the FCC is not the only player in the game. That’s why I’m looking at the IARU web site to see what works. Organizations like the MVPA are global. 

Mark D. 
WW2RDO

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> On May 25, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu> wrote:
> 
> FCC 15.235 looks to say 49.82 to 49.90 are free to use, something or other about 100 Mw but don’t see anyone from the commission going around and checking and almost all the stuff has a low power setting. That range is excluded for cordless phone operation so would assume it's clear.
> So what about 49.90 as a push?
> My limited experience with the vehicle people is that they are not licensed but this avoids all the issues. 51.0 is still going to be King in my book but here is that license issue isn't there.
> 
> Ray F/KA3EKH
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> I’ve been working for a while with vintage military vehicle collectors on universally usable radio frequencies for all three regions in the IARU ( International Amateur Radio Union ). The idea is to set certain standard frequencies that those with mostly standard, non-exotic vehicle mounted military radios could use at events, parades and the like and be able to talk to one another. For the most part, standard frequencies are pretty easy to establish between regions 2 ( the Americas) and 3 (Asia/Pacific) since the radio spectrums available for use are similar. There is a bit of a difference in spectrum in region 1 (Europe, Africa and the Middle East ) and regions 2 and 3. For instance, the 75/80 meter band in region 1 only goes to 3800 kc. So 3885 kc, which is popular with owners of WW2 vintage HF sets here in the States is out of band on Europe. 10 meter band frequencies 29.6 MHz and 29.1 MHz FM are ok in to use in all three regions ( BC-659 radios). Some operators here use 29.4 MHz FM as their talk frequency here in the States, and get some pretty interesting propagation, but in region 1, 29.4 MHz FM is a satellite uplink frequency, as is 29.3 MHz FM in the States. Also, it seem that kn region 1, nothing in the 6 meter band is available for use, where as in regions 2 and 3, there is some available bandwidth around 50 MHz FM. Interesting stuff. If the military vehicle people can get it together, could be very exciting. 
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> Mark
> WW2RDO
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