[MRCA] IN-106A antenna base for the SCR-284 - What the heck?

MKDORNEY at aol.com MKDORNEY at aol.com
Sat Jun 24 00:53:43 EDT 2017


If you are making mast sections like the MS-55 or MS-56, don't forget to  
paint the connectors the correct colors so as to aid in the assembly and  
disassembly of the antenna mast.
 
Mark
WW2RDO
 
 
In a message dated 6/23/2017 4:27:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
scottgs at bellsouth.net writes:

 
Steve,  Dennis, Mark, Dale, Robert, and anyone else who responded to my 
plea:   
Thanks  for the SCR-284 antenna explanation – It makes sense.  I didn’t 
realize  that the MS-56 was unthreaded, and I guess I don’t have an MS-56, or 
I would  have noticed.  I should have actually got out my pile of MS antenna 
 sections first, apparently.  However, I’m sure I don’t have any that are  
unthreaded at the bottom.   Strange that the TM doesn’t seem to  explain 
any of this.    
Previously,  I’ve only used wire antennas with the BC-654, as I hadn’t 
found an IN-106A  before.   So, looks like another search is in order, or, I 
just will  have to fire up the lathe.  Amazing how one simple radio project 
breads  about 5 other projects… 
Reminds  me, I probably should show you guys the faux TBX antenna that I 
made for our  WWII Radio event earlier this month.  
Garret 
W8BUG


 
From:  mrca-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:mrca-bounces at mailman.qth.net] 
On  Behalf Of Dennis DuVall
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 1:12  PM
To: MKDORNEY at aol.com; mrca  <mrca at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [MRCA] IN-106A antenna  base for the SCR-284 - What the heck?

Modified an MS-54 a while back to take the place of an  MS-55.  Machinist 
friend of mine cut a thread on the outside of the  fixture at the bottom  end 
of the -54 that mated with the inner thread at  the top end f the  MS-56. 
Worked FB. 
 

 
DD, W7QHO
 

 
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On Jun 23, 2017, at 7:32 AM, WW2RDO via MRCA <_mrca at mailman.qth.net_ 
(mailto:mrca at mailman.qth.net) >  wrote:
 
 
 
MS 55 and MS 56 can  still be had in Europe, but they are getting harder to 
come by.  I got  one of each for my BC-654 last year, one from a seller in 
Italy, another  from France, and I think I paid around $100.00 total.  
Vintage vehicle  suppliers are also a place to look now, since more and more of 
those guys  are getting radios for their vehicles.  I'm also surprised that 
nobody  has started to reproduce these antenna sections.  The construction  
looks to be pretty straight forward.
 

 
If you're actually  going to work your BC-654, and can't find the mast 
sections you're looking  for, get yourself an IN-127 (ground mount) or a AB-65 
(vehicle mount) from a  BC-1306 and 7 sections of the antenna masts that go 
with it ( vehicle mount  was a 15 ft antenna, ground mount was a 25 foot 
antenna ).  I have  known some who have used the AB-15 antenna base for the 15 
ft vehicle  antenna, but there is a question about the strength of the spring 
in this  antenna base, so stick with an AB-65.  While they are getting 
harder to  find, the mast sections that go with the IN-127 and AB-65 are a  lot 
easier to get that MS 55 and MS 56 ( that go with mast bases like the  
MP-48-A).  For most of WW2, the IN-127 was molded in brown plastic, but  very 
late (late 1945) and post war IN-127 were molded in black plastic, and  are 
readily available.  Or go with the long wire AN-130 that came with  the 
BC-1306, or make your own long wire antenna - there are instructions for  making 
this antenna in the manual your BC-654 you can get from Mr  Downs.
 

 
Mark  D.
 
WW2RDO
 

 
 
In a message dated  6/23/2017 2:02:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
_duvallddennis at gmail.com_ (mailto:duvallddennis at gmail.com)   writes:

OK…  We can  always count on Robert to step in set the detail record 
straight.   
 

 
DD,  W7QHO
 

 
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On Jun 22,  2017, at 9:24 PM, WA5CAB--- via MRCA <_mrca at mailman.qth.net_ 
(mailto:mrca at mailman.qth.net) >  wrote:
 
MS-55 through  MS-49 were originally used with SCR-178, SCR-179 and  
SCR-203.

MS-55 is as rare as MS-56 (or actually I guess rarer, as  I sold out of 
MS-55 in 2011 but still have two MS-56 available).   Also have IN-106's.

In a message dated 06/22/2017 21:44:53 PM  Central Daylight Time, 
_duvallddennis at gmail.com_ (mailto:duvallddennis at gmail.com)  writes:  


Garret,


The  two bottom sectors  of the SCR-284 “rod” antenna, MS-56 and MS-55  
are unique to the SCR-284.  The bottom section, MS-56 has a  smooth 
cylindrical bottom end that fits into the 1N-106A.  The  top end of MS-56 mates with 
the bottom end of  MS-55, the top end  of which mates with “standard” 
section MS-54 and so on up through  MS-55, MS-54,  MS-53, MS-52………….MS-49 (top 
section).

MS-56  (bottom) sections are now extremely rare, the last one I saw on eBay 
 went for $500!  Better start thinking about some kind of  adapter.  Got a 
machinist friend?


Dennis  DuVall,W7QHO
Glendale,  ca


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On Jun 22,  2017, at 5:05 PM, Garret Scott <_scottgs at bellsouth.net_ 
(mailto:scottgs at bellsouth.net) >  wrote:

I acquired a NOS IN-106A base, for the SCR-284  (BC-654). This is the old 
original style with the large ceramic  insulator. 

But…  I don’t understand how the MS-56  antenna section attaches.  There 
are no threads in the  base!!!

I’ve studied TM 11-275, and I just don’t get it.  

Can anyone help me regain sanity?  

Thanks,
Garret
W8BUG









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