From scr287 at att.net Wed Apr 8 21:43:40 2015 From: scr287 at att.net (Jack Antonio) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:43:40 -0400 Subject: [Motorola] Micor System 90 question Message-ID: <5525D94C.309@att.net> Was there a System 90 Alternate Control Module that could be used with an 8 or 12 channel radio? As I recall, the standard ACM only accommodated up to a 4 channel radio. Or did you have to use the standard control head for more than 4 channels? Thanks Jack Antonio WA7DIA/4 From d.stiver at att.net Wed Apr 8 22:25:36 2015 From: d.stiver at att.net (Don Stiver) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 02:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Motorola] Micor System 90 question In-Reply-To: <5525D94C.309@att.net> References: <5525D94C.309@att.net> Message-ID: <290049011.1133336.1428546336901.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> UHF MICORS were 12 ch capable? VHF micors were 8 ch capable. You need control head with rotary ch switch?Don Stiver 520-762-5243 1175 N. Solar Dr. Vail, Az 85641 donstiverprocessservice.com On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 6:43 PM, Jack Antonio wrote: Was there a System 90 Alternate Control Module that could be used with an 8 or 12 channel radio? As I recall, the standard ACM only accommodated up to a 4 channel radio. Or did you have to use the standard control head for more than 4 channels? Thanks Jack Antonio WA7DIA/4 ______________________________________________________________ Motorola mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/motorola Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Motorola at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From d.stiver at att.net Wed Apr 8 23:00:55 2015 From: d.stiver at att.net (Don Stiver) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 03:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Motorola] Micor System 90 question In-Reply-To: <290049011.1133336.1428546336901.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <290049011.1133336.1428546336901.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <403606804.1136394.1428548455720.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The standard control head had a 8 ch switch for VHF and a 12 ch switch for uhf. You had to have a different receiver bd in VHF?radio. The UHF had pins for 12 ch elements. There was a universal switching board that you could use to have rpt and direct capability. But it was not necessary. I had several 12 ch micor mobils with system 90 multi pl and 4ch scan capability?Don Stiver 520-762-5243 1175 N. Solar Dr. Vail, Az 85641 donstiverprocessservice.com On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 7:25 PM, Don Stiver wrote: UHF MICORS were 12 ch capable? VHF micors were 8 ch capable. You need control head with rotary ch switch?Don Stiver 520-762-5243 1175 N. Solar Dr. Vail, Az 85641 donstiverprocessservice.com ? ? On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 6:43 PM, Jack Antonio wrote: ? Was there a System 90 Alternate Control Module that could be used with an 8 or 12 channel radio? As I recall, the standard ACM only accommodated up to a 4 channel radio. Or did you have to use the standard control head for more than 4 channels? Thanks Jack Antonio WA7DIA/4 ______________________________________________________________ Motorola mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/motorola Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Motorola at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ? ______________________________________________________________ Motorola mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/motorola Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Motorola at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From wv2zow at gmail.com Thu Apr 9 01:45:00 2015 From: wv2zow at gmail.com (Michael Clarson) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 01:45:00 -0400 Subject: [Motorola] Micor System 90 question In-Reply-To: <5525D94C.309@att.net> References: <5525D94C.309@att.net> Message-ID: Jack: Never saw an ACM with more than 4 channels. When a customer needed more, a regular multi-freq head was installed at the bottom of the Systems 90 stack. For my own, I figured I could modify the switches and do BCD to the radio, but I purchased a Vanguard synthesizer and solved the problem on my own radio. My knowledge of systems 90 stopped with Micors. --Mike, WV2ZOW On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Jack Antonio wrote: > Was there a System 90 Alternate Control Module that > could be used with an 8 or 12 channel radio? > > As I recall, the standard ACM only accommodated up to > a 4 channel radio. > > Or did you have to use the standard control > head for more than 4 channels? > > Thanks > > Jack Antonio WA7DIA/4 > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Motorola mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/motorola > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Motorola at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From Geoff at wb6nvh.com Thu Apr 9 04:26:39 2015 From: Geoff at wb6nvh.com (Geoff Fors) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 01:26:39 -0700 Subject: [Motorola] Micor System 90 question References: <5525D94C.309@att.net> Message-ID: <3781157DFE854FE99FF2D1FE4ACE94E0@dell549557a818> The Motorola catalogs of the time only show a 4 channel maximum Systems 90 ACM as available off the shelf. That being said, there were 8 pushbutton positions available ( 9 to be precise) and there were some produced as specials. For example, the Orange County Sheriff UHF Micor Systems 90 head shown on my web pages here: http://www.wb6nvh.com/miscrad2.htm That radio also had a second receiver and a few other special features. Thus if you wanted an original 8 channel ACM you would have to try to find some -SP version that had them, and it's hard enough even finding a standard 4 channel one these days. I was thinking you could make one by using the deck from a Syntor era ACM, when 8 channel versions were somewhat standard, and modifying it to work on the Micor radio. Geoff WB6NVH From wv2zow at gmail.com Thu Apr 9 09:33:09 2015 From: wv2zow at gmail.com (Michael Clarson) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 09:33:09 -0400 Subject: [Motorola] Micor System 90 question In-Reply-To: <3781157DFE854FE99FF2D1FE4ACE94E0@dell549557a818> References: <5525D94C.309@att.net> <3781157DFE854FE99FF2D1FE4ACE94E0@dell549557a818> Message-ID: Geoff/Jack: Wasn't the channel selection module really a Wild Card module, with the switches wired to switch channels? The only thing special would have been the escutcheon. So, yes, its a multichannel head, but it takes up two slots. While its not "Motorola", I still like my BCD (or just plain binary) idea -- wouldn't require a special cable either. Is that how it was done on the Syntor? My Moto background pretty much stops at Micor/Mocom 70. Not even much Mitrek. If I remember correctly, its not difficult to modify the switches to make them non-interlocking. --Mike, WV2ZOW On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 4:26 AM, Geoff Fors wrote: > The Motorola catalogs of the time only show a 4 channel maximum Systems 90 > ACM as available off the shelf. > > That being said, there were 8 pushbutton positions available ( 9 to be > precise) and there were some produced as specials. For example, the Orange > County Sheriff UHF Micor Systems 90 head shown on my web pages here: > > http://www.wb6nvh.com/miscrad2.htm > > That radio also had a second receiver and a few other special features. > > Thus if you wanted an original 8 channel ACM you would have to try to find > some -SP version that had them, and it's hard enough even finding a > standard 4 channel one these days. > > I was thinking you could make one by using the deck from a Syntor era ACM, > when 8 channel versions were somewhat standard, and modifying it to work on > the Micor radio. > > Geoff > WB6NVH > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Motorola mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/motorola > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Motorola at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From scr287 at att.net Thu Apr 9 11:07:00 2015 From: scr287 at att.net (Jack Antonio) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:07:00 -0400 Subject: [Motorola] Micor System 90 question In-Reply-To: References: <5525D94C.309@att.net> <3781157DFE854FE99FF2D1FE4ACE94E0@dell549557a818> Message-ID: <55269594.7090401@att.net> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 4:26 AM, Geoff Fors wrote: > >> The Motorola catalogs of the time only show a 4 channel maximum Systems 90 >> ACM as available off the shelf. Thanks for the replies, and helping to jog the memory. It's been 20 years since I played with Micors, and was a little fuzzy on a couple of details. I had two Micors in my old Bronco, 2M and 440, each with a System 90 stack with channel scan, multi pl, and DTMF. The 2M radio was a Canadian 45W 8 channel 140 split radio. Wish now I'd kept it. I just couldn't remember if I had used an ACM or standard head for frequency selection, apparently it was the standard head with the System 90 modules on top. Jack Antonio WA7DIA/4 From d.stiver at att.net Thu Apr 9 11:22:05 2015 From: d.stiver at att.net (Don Stiver) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Motorola] Micor System 90 question In-Reply-To: <55269594.7090401@att.net> References: <55269594.7090401@att.net> Message-ID: <287194508.1307393.1428592925962.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I currently use Motorola Spectra and Astro Spectra radios. They are plentiful on ebay. The Astros are 200 ch and most will do P25 in addition to Analog also narrow band.?Don StiverK7LHR 520-762-5243 1175 N. Solar Dr. Vail, Az 85641 donstiverprocessservice.com On Thursday, April 9, 2015 8:07 AM, Jack Antonio wrote: > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 4:26 AM, Geoff Fors wrote: > >> The Motorola catalogs of the time only show a 4 channel maximum Systems 90 >> ACM as available off the shelf. Thanks for the replies, and helping to jog the memory.? It's been 20 years since I played with Micors, and was a little fuzzy on a couple of details. I had two Micors in my old Bronco, 2M and 440, each with a System 90 stack with channel scan, multi pl, and DTMF. The 2M radio was a Canadian 45W 8 channel 140 split radio. Wish now I'd kept it. I just couldn't remember if I had used an ACM or standard head for frequency selection, apparently it was the standard head with the System 90 modules on top. Jack Antonio WA7DIA/4 ______________________________________________________________ Motorola mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/motorola Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Motorola at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From glennmaillist at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 15 21:55:51 2015 From: glennmaillist at bellsouth.net (Glenn Little WB4UIV) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:55:51 -0400 Subject: [Motorola] JEDI Codeplug Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20150415215222.0386e9b0@mail.bellsouth.net> Does anyone understand the layout of a JEDI Codeplug? Is the tuning information stored in the codeplug? How does the two byte location fully define the frequency? Thanks 73 Glenn WB4UIV --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn Little ARRL Technical Specialist QCWA LM 28417 Amateur Callsign: WB4UIV wb4uiv at arrl.net AMSAT LM 2178 QTH: Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx) SBE ARRL TAPR "It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class of the Amateur that holds the license" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From scr287 at att.net Fri Apr 24 12:21:40 2015 From: scr287 at att.net (Jack Antonio) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 12:21:40 -0400 Subject: [Motorola] HT-200 charger question Message-ID: <553A6D94.4060701@att.net> What are the replacement bulbs in the NLN-6259A charger for the HT-200? The one here has a burned out 1819 for charge and a B1A for trickle. Are those the correct bulbs? I had the info for the charger back some 40 years ago, but it's long gone now. Thanks Jack Antonio WA7DIA/4 From w0rw1 at msn.com Fri Apr 24 13:09:13 2015 From: w0rw1 at msn.com (Paul Signorelli) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 11:09:13 -0600 Subject: [Motorola] HT-200 charger question In-Reply-To: <553A6D94.4060701@att.net> References: <553A6D94.4060701@att.net> Message-ID: There are 2 bulbs for charging: 24V 40ma type 1819 for low duty cycle and 14V 80 mA type 756, for high duty cycle. The neon trickle charge lamp is an NE51-H. My charger has not been used for a long time. i replaced all the NiCads with 3 - 18650 LiIon cells. Works great and they stay charged on the shelf with out trickle charging for years. No more Ni Cads for me. My PT-400's all have LiIon cells running at 16VDC. Paul w0rw From bobjarn at hotmail.com Fri Apr 24 13:16:19 2015 From: bobjarn at hotmail.com (Robert Jarnutowski) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 17:16:19 +0000 Subject: [Motorola] HT-200 charger question In-Reply-To: <553A6D94.4060701@att.net> References: <553A6D94.4060701@att.net> Message-ID: Hi, Should be a 1829, 28 volt 70 ma, for charging and B1A or 51H for trickle. These are correct for HT200 or HT220 Omni size battery. Nice to see these are still in use. Made many of them for myself and others into custom configurations in the past, especially the HT220 Omni size with SS back. Good luck. 73 Bob K8RJ > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 12:21:40 -0400 > From: scr287 at att.net > To: motorola at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Motorola] HT-200 charger question > > What are the replacement bulbs in the > NLN-6259A charger for the HT-200? > > The one here has a burned out 1819 for > charge and a B1A for trickle. > > Are those the correct bulbs? > > I had the info for the charger back > some 40 years ago, but it's long gone > now. > > Thanks > > Jack Antonio WA7DIA/4 > ______________________________________________________________ > Motorola mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/motorola > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Motorola at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From scr287 at att.net Fri Apr 24 13:47:33 2015 From: scr287 at att.net (Jack Antonio) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 13:47:33 -0400 Subject: [Motorola] HT-200 charger question In-Reply-To: References: <553A6D94.4060701@att.net> Message-ID: <553A81B5.10405@att.net> Thanks to all, charger is now charging happily away. The 2 batteries that came with the charger have 1981 date codes, and are taking, and at least over the short term, holding a charge. Was surprised there were no shorted cells. Will be interesting to see how good the batteries hold up after a 16 hour charge. Jack Antonio WA7DIA/4 From Geoff at wb6nvh.com Fri Apr 24 14:31:13 2015 From: Geoff at wb6nvh.com (Geoff Fors) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 11:31:13 -0700 Subject: [Motorola] HT-200 charger question References: <553A6D94.4060701@att.net> Message-ID: Paul, That is a great idea. What do you use to charge the LiIon batteries? I understand it's a bit tricky. Geoff WB6NVH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Signorelli" To: "Discussion of equipment manufactured by Motorola" Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [Motorola] HT-200 charger question > There are 2 bulbs for charging: > 24V 40ma type 1819 for low duty cycle and > 14V 80 mA type 756, for high duty cycle. > The neon trickle charge lamp is an NE51-H. > My charger has not been used for a long time. > i replaced all the NiCads with 3 - 18650 LiIon cells. > Works great and they stay charged on the shelf with out trickle charging > for years. > No more Ni Cads for me. > My PT-400's all have LiIon cells running at 16VDC. > Paul w0rw From w0rw1 at msn.com Fri Apr 24 14:59:35 2015 From: w0rw1 at msn.com (Paul Signorelli) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 12:59:35 -0600 Subject: [Motorola] HT-200 charger question In-Reply-To: References: <553A6D94.4060701@att.net>, , Message-ID: Hi Geoff, i do LiIon charging cell by cell with a single cell charger from Batteryspace.com. It is easy. Perfect if you just have it sitting on a shelf for demo purposes. If you want an operational charger just get s 3 cell charger and that will charge the cells all at once in less than an hour. Paul w0rw From wb6fly at verizon.net Fri Apr 24 17:10:25 2015 From: wb6fly at verizon.net (Eric Lemmon) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 14:10:25 -0700 Subject: [Motorola] HT-200 charger question In-Reply-To: References: <553A6D94.4060701@att.net>, ,

Message-ID: <002d01d07ed3$15f60bb0$41e22310$@verizon.net> I think a few points should be made here. First, there is no doubt that Li-Ion batteries have superior capacity, but they do require a charger that is designed for Li-Ion chemistry. Also, when a Li-Ion battery is allowed to run flat, such as when the radio it is powering is left turned on until the battery dies, that battery usually cannot be recovered. Secondly, Ni-Cd batteries that are old, or have been allowed to run down due to non-use, can often be recovered by repeated charge/discharge cycles. That is one of the features of the Motorola Battery Maintenance System Plus. When I insert a Ni-Cd or NiMH battery into a BMS+ pocket and select the Condition mode, the unit detects the battery chemistry and then performs three charge/discharge cycles, ending with a final charge. A microprocessor ensures that the voltages at the charge and discharge extremes are appropriate for the chemistry and number of cells in each battery. I am able to keep several "classic" radios in service, thanks to this device! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -----Original Message----- From: Motorola [mailto:motorola-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Signorelli Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:00 PM To: Discussion of equipment manufactured by Motorola Subject: Re: [Motorola] HT-200 charger question Hi Geoff, i do LiIon charging cell by cell with a single cell charger from Batteryspace.com. It is easy. Perfect if you just have it sitting on a shelf for demo purposes. If you want an operational charger just get s 3 cell charger and that will charge the cells all at once in less than an hour. Paul w0rw ______________________________________________________________ Motorola mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/motorola Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Motorola at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html