[Motorola] ASTRO SPECTRA PROGRAMMING

Sun Jan 13 02:03:28 EST 2008

OK, eating healthy portion of crow, and performing the facepalm. It is not 
easy, but one must pay the price. I do this stuff once every year or two, 
and well shucks, kinda get low on the learning curve. Thanks for your quick 
replies and pointing me down The Path. I have already printed the pinouts 
and am rummaging thru my connectors box.

Rgds!!!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tvsjr" <tvsjr at tvsjr.com>
To: "'Discussion of equipment manufactured by Motorola'" 
<motorola at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Motorola] ASTRO SPECTRA PROGRAMMING

> *facepalm*
>
> First, an HT1250 is not a Jedi. An HT1000, MT2000, MTS2000, MTX8000, etc. 
> is
> a Jedi. An HT1250 is a Waris.
>
> You have a factory Waris Portable programming cable. The other DB25 plugs
> into a Moto test box, which allows a Waris Portable to be tested using a
> service monitor (inject tones, get audio back out for sensitivity
> measurements, etc.) It does NOT plug into a Spectra.
>
> ASSuming that a cable will plug into a radio simply because the connector
> fits is not smart - and a good way to get a toasted radio.
>
> Now, bust out a few DB25s and build a Spectra high-power cable according 
> to
> the instructions on Batlabs.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: motorola-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:motorola-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K0DAN
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:53 AM
> To: Discussion of equipment manufactured by Motorola
> Subject: Re: [Motorola] ASTRO SPECTRA PROGRAMMING
>
> This is a remote mount Spectra, W9 head, all standard. Head plugs to
> connector under handle, the programming cable goes to RS232 under 12VDC
> power connector.
>
> Radio operates fine but doesn't ack program mode.
>
> It's defintiely a factory Mot cable...all the molded connectors have the
> logo and it's got that Moto fabrication look (cost) to it. No P/N on it
> altho it has a piece of extra heatshrink on it stamped "1900" which means
> nothing to me. DB25 female at RIB goes to DB male to radio (some pins
> pulled), and also has another cable at this connector which terminates in 
> a
> JEDI portable connector. This cable DOES work fine programming JEDI...but
> what's the DB25 hung off it?
>
> Maybe this is not a Spectra cable (altho I had it marked that way)??? That
> would explain a lot (and will piss me off cuz I no longer have other 
> Spectra
>
> cables, and wasted a whole day jacking around with this thing!!!).
>
> But...all suggestions gratefully accepted...thanks...
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "tvsjr" <tvsjr at tvsjr.com>
> To: "'Discussion of equipment manufactured by Motorola'"
> <motorola at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:36 AM
> Subject: RE: [Motorola] ASTRO SPECTRA PROGRAMMING
>
>
>> Correct on SmartRIB.
>>
>> Standard M cable with Spectra and HT1250 cable/connectors? Huh? Moto 
>> makes
>> programming cables for one radio... none of this multi-headed Hydra 
>> stuff.
>> My factory Spectra cable does NOT have Waris connectors on it...
>>
>> No "programming mode" required.
>>
>> I presume you're interfacing to the DB25 inside the handle, right?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: motorola-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:motorola-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K0DAN
>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:34 AM
>> To: Discussion of equipment manufactured by Motorola
>> Subject: Re: [Motorola] ASTRO SPECTRA PROGRAMMING
>>
>> Thanks for the fast reply!
>>
>> Everything you just said is what I thought was the case for programming
>> this
>>
>> radio. I guess Smart-RIB is only required for flash?
>>
>> Anyway, I only have this one radio, so can't A/B test. But the radio has
>> hardly been used and works perfectly as-is so I think there is some 
>> simple
>> answer that eludes me.
>>
>> The RIB is RLN4008B running of 120VAC wallwart.
>>
>> Cable is standard /\/\ cable with Spectra and HT1250 cable/connectors.
>>
>> I just tested RIB & cable on a HT1250 and the programming work fine.
>>
>> I started using USB-RS232 dongle with laptop, but when I had trouble, I
>> switched PC's and am now using real serial port, COM1 reported on Device
>> Manager (OS is XP) and CPS is also set to COM1.
>>
>> CPS version is R.03.00.00, old, but supposed to be same vintage as the
>> radio
>>
>> TO4RLH9PW9A (S/N 412AVN...).
>>
>> Does the radio need to put in test mode, or otherwise told to prepare for
>> programming? All the other RSS/CPS programming I've done, you just
>> read/write and the radio responds.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "tvsjr" <tvsjr at tvsjr.com>
>> To: "'Discussion of equipment manufactured by Motorola'"
>> <motorola at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:20 AM
>> Subject: RE: [Motorola] ASTRO SPECTRA PROGRAMMING
>>
>>
>>> All features of an ASTRO Spectra (analog, digital, conventional,
>>> trunking)
>>> can be programmed using the standard RLN1185-type RIB box and the same
>>> programming cable as one would use for an analog Spectra.
>>>
>>> Got the COM port set properly in the software? What version of software
>>> are
>>> you using? Real serial port or USB-serial dongle?
>>>
>>> Tried a different radio? Could be a hardware failure.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: motorola-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>> [mailto:motorola-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K0DAN
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:15 AM
>>> To: motorola at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Motorola] ASTRO SPECTRA PROGRAMMING
>>>
>>> I was under the impression you could program analog freqs/PL into Astro
>>> Spectra using the old style RIB box.
>>>
>>> I keep getting "can't communicate with radio" error.
>>>
>>> Does analog-only (no trunking, no digital) programming require a
>>> smart-RIB?
>>>
>>> Radio is TO4RLH9PW9, works fine, using stock /\/\ RIB box, programming
>>> cable, CPS. Nothing unusual. COM ports on PC and CPS all check out OK.
>>> RIB
>>> works fine with other programming, cable checks out OK.
>>>
>>> Is there a trick to make the radio recognize it needs to be programmed,
>>> or
>>> am I using the wrong RIB?
>>>
>>> Tnx
>>> k0dan
>>>
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