From memory of my time in the Air Force at tech school; I don't remember just how many licensed amateur radio operators I met but it wasn't that many, perhaps two or three mentioned that they were radio amateurs.  I was more impressed that many of those I met  played a musical instrument.  For whatever reason, a fair share of those in tech school at Keesler and a few years later in college at TSC, had more then just a passing interest in music.  The only instrument I ever played was the stereo!

In electronics school at Keesler and later in college, the washout rate was about 50%.  There were three blocks of schooling at Keesler, a refresher math course in algebra with some trig, a basic electronics circuits course and then finally sets.  Everyone in the electronics courses went through the first two in preparation for the latter which were examples of what equipment one would maintain once you arrived at your assigned duty station.  The real Air Force as we would say.

I was in Ground Radio, others at school were in Navaids or Radar so there were at least six courses of sets, three for ground based equipment and three for airborne equipment.  Some in the barracks were also in radio operators school.  Learning Morris Code and how to type for some 6 hours a day was a strain on many.  I have no idea of the washout rate for radio operators, I was too busy studying for the next day in class!

In late 1967, solid state was replacing tube based electronics but most of the sets I studied at Keesler were tube based, either HF or UHF receivers, transmitters or transceivers.  The instructors mentioned that the newer solid state radios were already out in the field but, in reality, all I ever saw for the next 3 and a half years were tube powered radios.  Ground Radio seemed to be the catchall.  If it wasn't Navaids or Radar or in an airframe, it was Ground Radio's repair responsibility.  So the Mars station and the base PA system were also ours to maintain.  Fun times!
Regards,
Jim

Logic: Method used to arrive at the wrong conclusion, with confidence.  Murphy


On Sunday, March 16, 2025 at 05:45:42 AM CDT, Rob Flory <[email protected]> wrote:


Charlie wrote:

" The only one that had some reciprocity was the 2nd Class Commercial
Telegraph Operator and Amatuer Extra which both had a 20WPM test, but code
credit was all that was accepted, the tech part, while similar, was not the
same, mainly due to totally different regulations.   "

When I took my Extra test in 1980 the commercial radiotelegraph tests were offered first that day, and I was bored, so I sat down for the commercial test.  I recall that it was 25WPM plain text and 20WPM groups.  So, they were probably giving commercial operators credit for the ham test but not the other way around.  

The written test was a real throwback which included hand-drawing schematics(of vacuum tube circuits) and block diagrams.  Luckily at that time it did not include much if anything on solid state as I had learned mostly from reading old books.  I already had a First Phone ticket and I think I must have gotten curious about what was on the Radiotelegraph and looked at that some.  Otherwise I don't know how I would have managed to invent a block diagram of an Autoalarm Circuit. 

That ticket has made a nice wall hanging, but never in a commercial station.
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Back to the military ops, I imagine many went in as hams or hobbyists, and some who learned in the service took an interest and got their ham ticket afterwards.  I have met many of each, but don't really have a picture of the stats.

Check out the story of Norm Dalling here:  https://navy-radio.com/flory/id22.html

73, RF

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