On the topic of value. I have to agree that the days of huge prices for our gear are coming to an end... "Free-to-a-good-home-pickup-only" seems to be the going price for Teletype gear these days, and other gear is trending that way too.

I had the good fortune to have a friend who picked up a beyond-repair T-47 at Fair Radio a few months ago. I hated to start stripping it, but once I got going it felt better. Fascinating to peek into the minds of the engineers and the production designers, to see the sequence-of-assembly process and their clever ideas ... note the split drive shaft to enable removal of the B Control. But the real thrill was to pull out the 3-D wring harness... what an astounding piece of planning!

Sooner or later I will part with both of my two T-47's (with cables) and their associated DY-(xx)'s, but as mentioned, shipping is the killer. I don't really care about the "value" as long as I get a few token bucks and they go to a good home. And over the years I have accumulated 4 audio modules in addition the ones already installed. I'll be getting those is shape with a home brew test jig fabricated just for them. So the plan is to run both T-47's through their paces with my one and only AC power supply, and then think hard about what to do. I live in an apartment, so no space.

So if money is the game, I agree with Ray that there is more to be made by parting out.

But when all is said and done, isn't the real value just that nice hefty signal with great audio, and watching that auto-tune land just where it did the last time around!

But here is one "value" conundrum that I haven't solved: I have two BC-191's sitting here with cables, tuning units, shock mount, a BD-77, all connectors, and their 211's, plus some spare 211's. I'd be willing sell or trade them someday soon to another ham who wants the thrill of putting them on the air. So let's say they go for a couple hundred at most, or I get a BC-779 in trade. How can I be sure that the new owner won't just scrap them and sell the 211's to the audio crowd for those crazy audio prices? Maybe I should sell the 211's myself for good bucks, and part out 2 perfectly good transmitters?

73,

Ken Kinderman

W2EWL

On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 10:07 AM Ray Fantini via Milsurplus <milsurplus@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

ART-13 have value beyond the Mill Radio market as they are also used by Hams wanting to run Old School AM, but they are big and would be hard to ship. Think under the circumstances I would pay maybe $50 each. They do sell for more at fest but packing and shipping is a real issue, things like the HRO stuff has the advantage of being able to be separated into separate boxes and shipped that way. I know this will probably piss off all those people who have ART-13 transmitters with power supplies and figure they are worth $500 to a $1,000 but I have seen them selling for anywhere between $100 to $250 at places like Hamvention so if it were me under the circumstances I would give them as little as possible because every aspect of picking up, loading, packaging and shipping will be expensive on a big radio like that.

If they were junk ART-13 in some ways that’s less of an issue. Then you can pull the audio deck and sell that, the T/R relay, the 813 and 811 tubes and the modulation transformer. The knobs are also something people will buy and all those parts would be easy to ship and sell on eBay. The thing is you can generate more money from parting the radio out and avoid the issues of trying to ship something that big, but don’t know about you but I would not have the hart to gut a good ART-13

Ray F/KA3EKH

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