[Milsurplus] Loss of the Thresher, 1963

Glenn Little WB4UIV glennmaillist at bellsouth.net
Sat Oct 5 22:20:06 EDT 2019


Submarines Have or had an under water communication device code named 
Gertrude.
This explains:? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_telephone


Glenn Little ETCS(SS) USN Retired
WB4UIV

On 10/5/2019 6:57 PM, Hubert Miller wrote:
>
> I am going to quote some to me interesting material from article 
> "SUBSAFE: Legacy of USS Thesher", 'Modern War' magazine, Jan. 2019, p 
> 68 ? 71.
>
> "Court of Inquiry found the probable cause of the sinking was a 
> failure of a weld?
>
> With no way to surface, the leaking pipe gradually increased the 
> boat's density, pulling her below the test depth of 1300 feet?
>
> An alternative theory was proposed in 2013 by a Sound Surveillance 
> System ( SOSUS ), the seabed sensors, analyst Bruce Rule?
>
> A decommissioned conventional submarine was intentionally sunk to 
> recreate events central to the Court of Inquiry's findings. At a depth 
> of 1000
>
> feet the hull collapsed. Water entered the hull at the same rate as 
> was indicated by SOSUS recordings of Thresher ? 1650 miles an hour?
>
> Rule's primary objection is the lack of detectable ( substantial ) 
> casualty prior to the electrical bus shutdown?
>
> The submarine gave no sign of distress and was cruising at a depth of 
> approximately 1000 feet?
>
> At 09:11 the main electric bus failed shutting down the main coolant 
> pump?Thresher radioed 'experiencing minor difficulty?attempting to blow'.
>
> There was no mention of flooding then or at any other time.
>
> At 09:15 a message to Skylark included the number 900. It generally 
> has been interpreted as referring to 900 feet below her test depth, or 
> 2200 feet.
>
> Both near ( 2400 feet ) and distant ( 1300 NM ) SOSUS sensors recorded 
> the collapse of Thesher's hull and internal components at 09:18."
>
> My question is, what system did the Thresher use to "radio" to the 
> surface ?
>
> -Hue Miller
>
>
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