[Milsurplus] [ARC5] AN-Ranges
wctaylor at juno.com
wctaylor at juno.com
Fri May 4 23:26:37 EDT 2018
Before NAVSAT there was a system onboard the Polaris FBM’s to get star fixes to correct SINS.
We had 3 SINS on our boat we called them the 3 stooges Larry, Moe, and Curly. One would lie and the other two would swear to it.
I was a NAVET on the second FBM built and launched, USS Patrick Henry SSBN599.
My equipment was the NAVSAT, LORAN, and another that goes unnamed.
Fun and interesting equipment and times, many years ago. Great boat and even greater bunch of shipmates. Miss it all !
Bill
KD4LXC
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> On May 4, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Bruce Gentry <ka2ivy at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> I was aware that inertial systems need to be corrected periodically, but for a few hours between confirmation fixes they were quite accurate. I heard of the TRANSIT nav system, but was never able to learn much about it when it was in use. Have the satellites been turned off or de-orbited? Regarding subs making a rise to periscope depth for information, I have been told the WRR-2/FRR-59 receiver I am restoring was intended to be pre-tuned accurately at depth, then the sub would rise and extend the antenna at a specific time for a scheduled communication before returning to the depths.
>
> Bruce Gentry
>
>> On 5/4/18 5:49 PM, Mike Morrow wrote:
>> Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> Another technology that fascinates me is inertial navigation.
>>> It is completely self contained and does not require any sort
>>> of beacons or satellites.
>> Inertial navigation for long duration transits does require periodic position updates (fixes) from other sources.
>>
>> Ballistic missile submarines in my era had two independent ship inertial navigation systems (SINS) on board in continuous operation...the best systems of that type available in the world. Still, the ship had to came to periscope depth frequently to get a fix from the TRANSIT doppler navigation satellite array that operated on 150 MHz and 400 MHz. The principls motivation for developing and operating the TRANSIT SATNAV system was specifically to provide those mid-sea position updates for SSBN SINS. Our Poseidon missile system could drop its MIRVs no more accurately than position at launch time was known, so a monumental amount of money and effort was spent to know that position.
>>
>> The missile's INS didn"t get post-launch position updates, but the ship's INS often did.
>>
>> Mike / KK5F
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