[Milsurplus] Military Radios - LA County Estate - auction or scrap?

Peter Gottlieb kb2vtl at gmail.com
Sat Aug 11 20:08:24 EDT 2018 

Obviously many items can no longer be used for their original purposes; consider 
older aircraft radios.  So what I would support is electronics recycling where 
items would be available for reclaiming before going on to scrap.  Although few 
and far between, there are some such commercial outfits around today.

As a society we throw away far too much usable material.  The energy, labor and 
raw materials that went into that material is all wasted if it ends up in 
landfills.  Plus, the landfills become clogged.

How would this be operable?  Who knows.  I was more thinking of just enough of a 
regulation that it would tip the balance from CYA to preserve for others.  Maybe 
some sort of tax writeoff?



On 8/11/2018 7:52 PM, Jim Whartenby wrote:
> Peter, your kidding, right?
> Would not mandatory re-use laws make criminals of us all?  Do you still have 
> your AMPS (1st generation) cell phone?  Oh, never mind, it's no longer 
> supported in the US anyway.  IIRC, my 1G cell phone used Ni-Cad batteries, 
> remember them?
>
> It's not that I'm not sympathetic but where are we going to put all of the old 
> stuff that has been replaced by more modern stuff?  (Remember George Carlin's 
> Stuff routine?)  As a card carrying throwback, I still have my early 1960s era 
> Collins 310F-6 receiver-exciter (a KWT-6 without the PA and HVPS).  It 
> replaced my 1985 Icom IC-R70 receiver since it did just about the same thing 
> but didn't have the coolness factor that comes with a seven foot tall rack of 
> aluminum that needs a blower motor to keep it running, not to mention 1000 
> times the ac power. <grin>
>
> I feel for the guy in LA or, more correctly, for his heirs.  Evidently he had 
> the same problem I now have.  It's hard to let go of things that I had wanted 
> some 50 odd years ago and now finally have.  Of course the fun was partly in 
> the finding and partly in getting it working.  But then what, put it in 
> storage and then move on to something else?  D'oh!  (See Homer Simpson for 
> meaning)
>
> Times change and I'm glad I don't ever have to clean up after horses.  I 
> believe it is so much easier to just gas up the car to go to the store then to 
> harness up a team.
> Jim
> I wonder why people argue over the 10% of their differences and ignore the 90% 
> they agree on?
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Peter Gottlieb <kb2vtl at gmail.com>
> *To:* milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 11, 2018 5:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Milsurplus] Military Radios - LA County Estate - auction or scrap?
>
> That happens all the time with electronic equipment and machine tool shops.  Why
> aren't there mandatory re-use laws instead of ones which trigger people's CYA
> reflexes?
>
>
> On 8/11/2018 5:44 PM, Joe Connor via Milsurplus wrote:
> > Here's why I made the point about legal requirements for disposition. Just
> > before I retired from the county prosecutor's office, the local law library
> > (run by the state judiciary) was being closed. We could have used some of the
> > hard-to-find out-of-print books from that library and would have gladly given
> > them a new home. The head judge, however, was a brainless bureaucrat. He was
> > so paranoid about violating state bidding laws that he had all those books put
> > in a dumpster rather than let us put them to good use. He even refused to give
> > us a heads-up on when they were going into the dumpster so we could just
> > coincidentally happen by and "find" them. It still pisses me off.
> >
> >
> >                             Joe Connor
> >
> > On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 5:30:09 PM EDT, Robert Meadows
> > <rpmeadow at bellsouth.net <mailto:rpmeadow at bellsouth.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I think a few folk missed the note, this is part of an estate that the County
> > has a duty to dispose of properly.
> >
> > Therefore, someone out there on the left coast should just go and make an
> > offer, a reasonable offer to clear the estate.
> >
> > Otherwise is there an honest fellow out there with sufficient knowledge to
> > evaluate and advise proper value?
> >
> > Better to assist and get the gear to new and good homes than to see it sent to
> > the junk pile.
> >
> > R
> >
> > *From:*milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> <mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> > [mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> <mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net>] *On Behalf Of *Joe Connor via
> > Milsurplus
> > *Sent:* Saturday, August 11, 2018 4:31 PM
> > *To:* Military Surplus Mail List; Hubert Miller
> > *Subject:* Re: [Milsurplus] Military Radios - LA County Estate - auction or 
> scrap?
> >
> > Since this is a governmental entity, they may not be allowed to simply donate
> > it to a private radio club. Usually, property that a governmental entity wants
> > to dispose of has to be sold at auction to the highest bidder. The only
> > alternative might be the scrap heap. Before anyone tells this guy an auction
> > wouldn't be worth it, we should probably know what the alternative (if any) to
> > an auction is.
> >
> > Joe Connor
> >
> > On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 4:00:21 PM EDT, Hubert Miller
> > <Kargo_cult at msn.com <mailto:Kargo_cult at msn.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Considering the amount of chaff to wheat there, it doesn't look to me like an
> > auction would be worth their time at all.
> > The HF receivers don't look too bad and deserve to survive. They should just
> > donate the stuff to a local ham radio club
> >
> > and let the club sign waivers to get the stuff out of there, let the club
> > dispose of it with a percentage to a local charity.
> >
> > Maybe pluck tubes from the FGC-1 units ? I don't know how hard or easy it is
> > to get rid of old metal chassis etc. I took
> >
> > some dead recent electronics to a recycling center yesterday and it's a whole
> > new world, the current recycling rules,
> >
> > particularly so in the smaller locales, where the recyclers apparently are in
> > more of a fix.
> >
> > -Hue
> >
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