[Milsurplus] G and G Radio Sales NYC

Sun Sep 3 19:07:51 EDT 2017

I'd like to read your story about G & G.

I was interested in electronics since very young but didn't know and radio 
people.  In High School I hooked up with the radio station crowd and a senior 
one day thought we should all get our third class radiotelephone licenses so 
gave us a short course and then he drove us to downtown NYC to the FCC.  We all 
passed.  On the way back we stopped by G & G and I was amazed but we had very 
little time as the school had made us promise we'd be back by a certain time and 
it was a bit of a ride back to Westchester.  I always wanted to get back down 
there but I had a very limited window as the world trade center planning had 
already started and the entire neighborhood was doomed.  By the time I could get 
back in a few months the buildings were already starting to be demolished with 
all stores moved out.

Peter
kb2vtl

On 9/3/2017 6:55 PM, comcast wrote:
> Hue and folks
> My dad worked part time at Gand G radio  in the 70s . Sometimes I accompanied 
> him and my brother on a Saturday. the owner, Murray Baum, grew up in England 
> as a boy then came over to the US and was a telegrapher. He was in his 70s at 
> the time. He knew alot of people in the electronics business including the 
> owners of Lafayette radio.  He never really adapted to the surplus markets 
> like Bill Slep (huh!), Columbia Electronics or Space Electronics.  He 
> preferred to live in his WW2 inventory.
>
>  My dad helped move inventory between Leonard st warehouse and Warren st 
> store/office/headquarters. first floor was Lafayette radio. Second floor was 
> his offices and showroom in one room on the second floor there was a display 
> of the most everything he sold. third-floor was the shipping and receiving 
> department where my dad did most of his work. On a Saturday me and my brother 
> had our jobs such as testing and polishing tubes for repackaging
> 4th floor was more storage and 5th floor was more tubes
>
> G and G  had hundreds of new RAY receivers and BC – 645s. I think I sold my 
> last one at Gilbert a few years ago to bernie bought it
> not sure what the RAY did.  the story with the 645s was they were never 
> fielded in ww2 due to incompatibility with existing IFF sets
>
> I believe he bought the bc312 diversity sets - there is one on qth.com 
> <http://qth.com> now - from another surplus guy. He had a part time ham tech, 
> Leon Chall, from Brooklyn , working on them.
>  Murray wanted to pay Leon on the books, he said no way and threatened to 
> quit. Murray gave him cash for his services
>
>  When he was running out of stock he carried Fair radio items in his catalog 
> but they would always be shipped from Fair radio and Murray would get a commission
>
> I have been working on a story about our G and G adventures on and off . When 
> I finish I will share with everyone
>
> Jeff
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 8:27 PM, comcast <kg2bz at comcast.net 
> <mailto:kg2bz at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>> ray and folks .
>>
>> i can remember as a kid working with my dad at g and g radio in new york 
>> city. he had hundreds of brand new crated bc223s. my dad got 2, one was 
>> ruined from hurricane sandy, the other my mom found when cleaning out the 
>> attic last year. the other half of the scr245, the bc312, my dad got working 
>> for me when i was 12 or 13.  with a 15 ft piece of wire in the basement I 
>> would listen to the top end of the BCB, 160m was dead due to loran, but i 
>> listened to uscg on 2670 and 75m am - wa1hyellr etc
>>
>> i also found the dynamotor too!
>>
>> the scr245 may have been in use in north africa in m3 lee and m4 shermans but 
>> by the time of sicily the scr508 was firmly in use
>>
>> as to the scr506, that was used in the armored battalion commanders and xo's 
>> tanks for the regimental command net. also in those tanks was the 508. it was 
>> also used in m8 and m20 armored cars for the recon units. tank companies 
>> commanders and xos had the 508 which had 2 bc603 receivers, 1 tuned to the 
>> battalion net the other in the company net. early in the war only 2 out 4 
>> tanks in a  tank platoon had the scr528 603/604 combo, the other 2 tanks had 
>> the scr538 with a 603, 605 interphone amp and no xmitter
>>
>>
>> jeff
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu 
>> <mailto:RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>> Seeing that a BC-223 transmitter was offered up got me thinking about the 
>>> SCR-245 radio system. That’s the combination of the BC-223 transmitter and 
>>> the BC-312 receiver to provide a low powered HF AM radio system intended for 
>>> tank, armored vehicle and command car use that was replaced by the SCR-508 
>>> being a superior system for mobile operation being FM and VHF. The SCR-508 
>>> was introduced around mid-41 with the HF AM SCR-245 coming out in 37 so 
>>> there was a period of time before VHF FM was adopted for vehicle operation 
>>> but my question would be was the SCR-245 ever fielded in combat? Was 
>>> thinking that maybe it was used in North Africa if it were used at all or 
>>> was the SCR-508 in use by that time? If it was in use in North Africa were 
>>> all the vehicles with that installation overhauled to the newer radios 
>>> before use in Europe? What about equipment used in Sicily and Italy? Being 
>>> that was in between the two operations.
>>>
>>> The SCR-506 with its massive BC-653 transmitter and the BC-652 receiver also 
>>> fits into this roll somehow but always thought that was more an artillery or 
>>> more a command and control type radio being high power and not intended in 
>>> the small tactical role as the SCR-245 also I have noticed that although I 
>>> have only seen maybe two or three BC-223 transmitters before the ones I have 
>>> seen appear to have never been issued and perhaps that says something to if 
>>> they were ever used or not.
>>>
>>> The relevance of all this is that in the last several years I have noticed 
>>> that I had moved away from the concept of having just one part of a 
>>> communications system and look at things more as a complete package. Where 
>>> it was once something to have just a receiver or maybe a transceiver that I 
>>> use on the Ham bands now looking at having complete systems and operations 
>>> along the lines of original intentions, at least without the shooting part. 
>>> In the last couple years the M151 with its VRC-12 and GRC-106 systems has 
>>> been a lot of fun for use around the house or at shows but have been 
>>> thinking along the lines of what’s next and perhaps a field package of the 
>>> SCR-245 in a big wooden transit case may have possibilities? Who knows, that 
>>> may have to lead to a WW2 vehicle?
>>>
>>> Ray F/KA3EKH
>>>
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