[Milsurplus] OK true believers... YES the Teletype did fly.. Read page...

[COURYHOUSE at aol.com]

Hi Ray! ok you have to remember that independence went though one or more  
refits internally.. especially when converted for just VIP use. later... the 
 plane you see today is not the same inside as the way it first flew.
 


yes I wish this book had more details about the comm!
 


remember also if you see the bell system record article on our 31 page  
there was already CAA tests going on too using the model 31 and a tu... and 
this  unit was made as a mill unit too....
 

I would say the extra comm area was there from the early onset then removed 
 .. this was also the first DC 6 to use weather radar also. it would be  
interesting to know if that was RCA or Bendex


there is a story about the Dewey Plane and the Air force trying to suck up  
to a president that never was...

I fun book... it is cheap at amazon grab a copy!
 

I think I have some more books that may mention.... things....
 will keep checking! 
 

I will agree this installation was not not a common one but the Pres was  
not a common guy... and the USAF was always trying to gain favor... ( the 
dewey  plane really shoes that!)
 
Ed!

 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2013 9:22:52 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu writes:

True,  but what year? The photos that were presented before showed ARC-8 
type  configurations that would be equipment only poorly suited to airborne 
teletype  operations. Everyone is in agreement that by sixties with the 618T 
(ARC-94)  and solid state TU and small teleprinters like the Mite airborne 
teletype was  common place but still think in the late forties and early 
fifties it’s a  stretch. 
Maybe it would have been a good system for the amount of traffic  that an 
executive level flight required but the command and control structures  we 
take for granted today did not exist at that time, at least not in an  
airborne asset.
Closest thing would have been the starting of operation  Looking Glass in 
February of 61 by SAC and later transferred to the 38th SRS  and the 2nd and 
7th ACCS. The Moscow Washington Hotline or Red Phone did not  exist until 
1963 and that was a land base teletype circuit. The Army was well  into 
teletype with radio systems like the AN/GRC-26 by the fifties, the Navy  was well 
established too, but if we had dependable airborne teletype assets  why weren
’t they used in the early SAC operations? Show me evidence of a  teletype 
in any B-36, B-29, B-50 or B-47
Having been on both the Sacred Cow  and Independence I know that there is 
no separate section for communications  and not much beyond a second set of 
HF radios for communications , two ARC-8  sets in the Cow and one ARC-38 and 
a second 618S in the Independence set up  for CW operations at the 
navigators station. No separate aria or operations  centers, not much beyond what 
would be on a normal transport for that  time.
I am going to concede that there may have been an installation of  land 
base or modified teletype equipment prior to 1960 and by the time of SAM  26000 
or SAM 27000 radios and teleprinters existed so there would have not  been 
an issue with teletype but still going to remain skeptical of flying  
teletype in the late forties and fifties, and what’s there in the museums is  not 
supporting your argument.

Ray  F

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OK true believers...

YES the Teletype did fly.. Read page  162-3 THE FLYING WHITE HOUSE by  HORST
not a lot of data but talks  about him being the first prez to have teletype
both regular end encoded  for secrecy.



by a copy at amazon... price is starting at 69  cents..
.
http://www.amazon.com/Flying-White-House-Story-Force/dp/0698109309/ref=tmm_h
rd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=&qid=


Also  Happy Thanksgiving!



Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC  _www.smecc.org_  (http://www.smecc.org/)